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05-28-2012 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
People need to stop worrying about those temporary contracts expiring. Those were Tapie hires and there is zero reason for stars to keep paying them.
Did you read the post you reacted to?
What is it you disagree with?
05-28-2012 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
It's not true, it's just another unsubstantiated rumor.
herding cats is much easier than this thread and more fun
05-28-2012 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondogarage
I can certainly see where that would be the case, especially with regard to stuff like sensitive proprietary technology, trade secrets, and the like. Not typically the case with regard to the existence of negotiations to resolve a criminal matter, or in the fields of law I work in, but I see where I was a bit too absolute in my comment.
In the areas of sophisticated commercial negotiations regarding things like sales and purchases and civil litigation negotiations, such agreements are common. I think that is what the civil aspect of these matters would most resemble. Reporters are not given such information until all the parties decide to use the reporters to publicize an event.
05-28-2012 , 10:05 PM
At least the IGP could admit they were wrong.

Hopefully we get an announcement at some point during the WSOP.
05-28-2012 , 10:07 PM
I just honestly cant wait for all of this to be over in a good or bad way.
05-28-2012 , 10:27 PM
so basically, new word is we'll get an announcement at some point during the series. At least now we can safely say that if nothing comes out in the series publicly by stars then we can all kiss our FTP $$ gbye for god knows how long. sad truth

sidenote: if they actually come thru for ftp i assume and pray it helps their case in coming back to USA :-0 i mean im sure thats part of settlement agreement
05-28-2012 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark275
At least now we can safely say that if nothing comes out in the series publicly by stars then we can all kiss our FTP $$ gbye for god knows how long. sad truth
No
05-28-2012 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit
herding cats is much easier than this thread and more fun
grrrrrr

Last edited by IamPro; 05-28-2012 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Machine-gun in the car
05-28-2012 , 10:47 PM
Link to other forum 4 lulz
05-28-2012 , 10:55 PM
At the end of wsop, if we don't have an announcement, what is the next date ? 4 july (US independence day) ? 6 september (Swaziland independence day) ? or why not the 22 december after the end of the world, that could be a great time to make an announcement, no ?

What do u think guyz ?
05-28-2012 , 10:59 PM
22 of Dec I probably give up b/c the zombie Apocalypse will be upon us
05-28-2012 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark275
so basically, new word is we'll get an announcement at some point during the series. At least now we can safely say that if nothing comes out in the series publicly by stars then we can all kiss our FTP $$ gbye for god knows how long. sad truth

sidenote: if they actually come thru for ftp i assume and pray it helps their case in coming back to USA :-0 i mean im sure thats part of settlement agreement
....and there you have it, baseless speculation turned into ironclad fact in record time.
05-28-2012 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
At least the IGP could admit they were wrong.

Hopefully we get an announcement at some point during the WSOP.
This is pretty LOL, since they did admit they were "slightly" wrong, but replaced that speculation with even more baseless speculation. I can tell you with some authority, that the "deal" is not complete and being held to be released on some very 'special" date to make the announcement even more "special". By being so vague, any date that an announcement were to happen, then becomes this very "special" date that they knew all along? I call b.s.
05-28-2012 , 11:20 PM
man seriously this has gotten beyond ******ed.

I mean not only has it been beyond a YEAR, we have been basically in the dark this entire time. Not only have we been in the dark, we've been sent on this emotional roller coaster every few months that has allowed trolls, frauds, and bitter fish to muddy the water even further.

I don't see this ending, ever, I don't see ANY light at the end of the tunnel. Even though realistically I know this has to end eventually, I don't see any light. And even if it does end, I don't see it ending positive, it just seems WAY too good to be true.

Win or lose, I will look back at this dark period of my life and quiver. It has been a TRYING, FRUSTRATING, TORTUROUS year and a few months. I realize there has been very little/no physical harm due to this, but this is borderline mental torture imo. I know I'm stating the obvious when I say this, but this IS NOT RIGHT... pushing inhumane.
05-28-2012 , 11:24 PM
the moment you come into this thread, you realise "Poker is still very much profitable". People behind sites like IGP laugh their a**off when they see unfortunate souls trafficking there to see what s**t they cook.
05-28-2012 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
This is pretty LOL, since they did admit they were "slightly" wrong, but replaced that speculation with even more baseless speculation. I can tell you with some authority, that the "deal" is not complete and being held to be released on some very 'special" date to make the announcement even more "special". By being so vague, any date that an announcement were to happen, then becomes this very "special" date that they knew all along? I call b.s.
Haha, very true.

Wonder who their source is...
05-28-2012 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItYo
man seriously this has gotten beyond ******ed.

I mean not only has it been beyond a YEAR, we have been basically in the dark this entire time. Not only have we been in the dark, we've been sent on this emotional roller coaster every few months that has allowed trolls, frauds, and bitter fish to muddy the water even further.

I don't see this ending, ever, I don't see ANY light at the end of the tunnel. Even though realistically I know this has to end eventually, I don't see any light. And even if it does end, I don't see it ending positive, it just seems WAY too good to be true.

Win or lose, I will look back at this dark period of my life and quiver. It has been a TRYING, FRUSTRATING, TORTUROUS year and a few months. I realize there has been very little/no physical harm due to this, but this is borderline mental torture imo. I know I'm stating the obvious when I say this, but this IS NOT RIGHT... pushing inhumane.
just pm me every 1000 pages or so save me the torture...
nothing new to report
05-28-2012 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubbleblower
Did you read the post you reacted to?
What is it you disagree with?
At this point I do not know and am not sure what particular post this was in reply to.

People were worried/making an issue that these contract pk employees got fired. My point stands that it is not relevant or indicative of anything. Tapie hired those people for all intents and purposes and their being let go has nothing to do, good or bad with a ps/FTP/doj ménage et trois.
05-29-2012 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
This is pretty LOL, since they did admit they were "slightly" wrong, but replaced that speculation with even more baseless speculation. I can tell you with some authority, that the "deal" is not complete and being held to be released on some very 'special" date to make the announcement even more "special". By being so vague, any date that an announcement were to happen, then becomes this very "special" date that they knew all along? I call b.s.
You Supposedly know so much but yet you don't tell us ****. What good are any of you poker media wanna be news reporters??? Just tell us what you know. This isn't a game.
Alot of us are stuck serious money and we have to read this bull**** and have a supposed authority on the subject tell us nothing good is coming but no reasons why. How bout You throw us a ****ing bone diamond If you really do know anything.
05-29-2012 , 12:11 AM
Id rather Diamond not say anything, shes already hinted at enough that there's still negotiations and that should be sufficient enough. We don't want another set of dates or information that may or may not come to pass (ie chinamaniac giving a bunch of ******s hope) Im sure if she had something sufficient and concrete enough that it would be worth spilling, she would spill it.
05-29-2012 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
You Supposedly know so much but yet you don't tell us ****. What good are any of you poker media wanna be news reporters??? Just tell us what you know. This isn't a game.
Alot of us are stuck serious money and we have to read this bull**** and have a supposed authority on the subject tell us nothing good is coming but no reasons why. How bout You throw us a ****ing bone diamond If you really do know anything.
If her source's tell her what she can/can't disclose, and she proceeds to disclose confidential information her sources will go away...
05-29-2012 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
You Supposedly know so much but yet you don't tell us ****. What good are any of you poker media wanna be news reporters??? Just tell us what you know. This isn't a game.
Alot of us are stuck serious money and we have to read this bull**** and have a supposed authority on the subject tell us nothing good is coming but no reasons why. How bout You throw us a ****ing bone diamond If you really do know anything.
Seriously? What the hell is wrong with you? Do you think if you insult me "enough" that I can spill all kinds of secrets and show you the promised land?
I've already made very clear, negotiations are continuing, they are not yet complete, there is not a chosen date for an announcement, no announcement will be held up to coincide with anyone's predictions.

Want more than that, please feel free to take all your sweet talk to another forum. I'm sure there are plenty of other sites willing to accept your abuse in order to put their speculation out there. Good Luck.
05-29-2012 , 12:24 AM
Q for the lawyers itt that seem to know how these things go:

Over a year on and none of the indicted are arrested. I haven't seen it posted that the seized/attached/claimed/frozen (w/e is the proper term) accounts are in the actual possession of the DOJ.

So what's the problem? 'Wheels of justice grind slowly', etc, etc, doesn't seem to cover it. Seized processor funds were gone in quick order and this case is, except for the occasional court appearance, moving at glacier speed.

Trouble w/ the case? Trouble w/ other jurisdictions? Not a front-burner issue?
05-29-2012 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
You have no idea of stars current staffing situation. They could be over staffed and adding new staff daily.

There is no chance the site is going up tomorrow. Listen stars is a fully functioning poker site that is bigger than FTP was. I will simply again reiterate from personal experience those jobs bring terminated are evidence of nothing. There may never be another pocket king hiring ever and FTP could come back.

People expecting FTP to be rolled out next week are going to be sorely disappointed. Stars would have to do very little external work in advance. Again most positions would be duplicated and there is no evidence stars would want any former FTP employees they have not already hired.

Again the contract terminations mean absolutely nothing one way or another.
Fair enough, I could type out a long reply but it would be of no interest to anyone so I won't.
05-29-2012 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Seriously? What the hell is wrong with you? Do you think if you insult me "enough" that I can spill all kinds of secrets and show you the promised land?
I've already made very clear, negotiations are continuing, they are not yet complete, there is not a chosen date for an announcement, no announcement will be held up to coincide with anyone's predictions.

Want more than that, please feel free to take all your sweet talk to another forum. I'm sure there are plenty of other sites willing to accept your abuse in order to put their speculation out there. Good Luck.
I lol'd.

      
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