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09-15-2013 , 02:57 PM
WCG sitting with over 500BB on one table? Thought they were splitting after 250? Or maybe it's only Sauce who must split at 250? If that is the case then it's totally unfair.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
WCG sitting with over 500BB on one table? Thought they were splitting after 250? Or maybe it's only Sauce who must split at 250? If that is the case then it's totally unfair.
Makes no difference if one person is deep if the over isn't deep... DUCY?
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
WCG sitting with over 500BB on one table? Thought they were splitting after 250? Or maybe it's only Sauce who must split at 250? If that is the case then it's totally unfair.
If both are not at 250 then it doesn't matter.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
Makes no difference if one person is deep if the over isn't deep... DUCY?
I don't agree. Mathematically it's the same but no matter how level headed you are it's psychologically harder when you have 100BB v's a guy with 500BB.

WCG definitely running better so far this session but Sauce still only a few buy-ins down. I'm telling you Sauce will wear him down once he hits the run good.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:12 PM
Flopped QQQ v's pocket KK for 93k shipped to Doug. I like the almost time out on the turn followed by the instacheck on the river. Sweet.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
I don't agree. Mathematically it's the same but no matter how level headed you are it's psychologically harder when you have 100BB v's a guy with 500BB.

WCG definitely running better so far this session but Sauce still only a few buy-ins down. I'm telling you Sauce will wear him down once he hits the run good.
Nonsense, that BS.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
Nonsense, that BS.
K
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:27 PM
What's the current line? It seems people taking sauce at +105/110 got hustled
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PotSizedBet
Can someone stream it
www.twitch.tv/ionolaaa

Good idea, stream should be saved to video, after its over for people that can't watch.
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09-15-2013 , 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
I don't agree. Mathematically it's the same but no matter how level headed you are it's psychologically harder when you have 100BB v's a guy with 500BB.

LOL
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09-15-2013 , 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
I don't agree. Mathematically it's the same but no matter how level headed you are it's psychologically harder when you have 100BB v's a guy with 500BB.

WCG definitely running better so far this session but Sauce still only a few buy-ins down. I'm telling you Sauce will wear him down once he hits the run good.
if it is psychologically harder for you, it will be a huge impediment to your advancement.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:08 PM
Man, WCG is just running too good, hitting everything. Now might be a good time to look for 2/1 Sauce.
Douglas "WCGRider" Polk vs Ben "Sauce" Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:09 PM
WCG running so good right now. (Set << flush draw) * 2
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:19 PM
R.I.P. Sauce
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by terp
if it is psychologically harder for you, it will be a huge impediment to your advancement.
Well yes, I prefer to be greater than 100BB and while this is not a good thing it might not be as huge an impediment as suggested. Poker is not black & white, same as the ebb & flow of a HU match IS important despite it not being important if we were all bots and thus people will try tell you it is not important. I am not a bot and do not try to pretend I can think like one and therefore never fail to see the logical theoretical side of things no matter how much pressure I'm under in a match. We all come under pressure and all convince ourselves to think that certain illogical thought process are ok e.g. No matter how much Sauce balances his ranges do you really think that j10 suited shove he did today is part of his A+ game? Personally I don't like to be 400BB less than my opponent. I do see it as a weakness but not as a lol factor (though you didn't lol) that automatically means "dude is clueless." It is also a weakness to think too theoretically and too structured and believe that everything that doesn't add up is just plain wrong and anyone who says otherwise thus has a huge weakness in this area. While that is likely true it is not cast in stone. I have played over 700K hands of HU and am still standing and I can tell you the psychology of HU poker is in ways as important as all the theory in the World. To prefer to be even stack with your opponent rather than 400BB less is far from a catastrophic mindset imo.
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
Well yes, I prefer to be greater than 100BB and while this is not a good thing it might not be as huge an impediment as suggested. Poker is not black & white, same as the ebb & flow of a HU match IS important despite it not being important if we were all bots and thus people will try tell you it is not important. I am not a bot and do not try to pretend I can think like one and therefore never fail to see the logical theoretical side of things no matter how much pressure I'm under in a match. We all come under pressure and all convince ourselves to think that certain illogical thought process are ok e.g. No matter how much Sauce balances his ranges do you really think that j10 suited shove he did today is part of his A+ game? Personally I don't like to be 400BB less than my opponent. I do see it as a weakness but not as a lol factor (though you didn't lol) that automatically means "dude is clueless." It is also a weakness to think too theoretically and too structured and believe that everything that doesn't add up is just plain wrong and anyone who says otherwise thus has a huge weakness in this area. While that is likely true it is not cast in stone. I have played over 700K hands of HU and am still standing and I can tell you the psychology of HU poker is in ways as important as all the theory in the World. To prefer to be even stack with your opponent rather than 400BB less is far from a catastrophic mindset imo.
You prob won't have trouble getting action for your next 700k.
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bones
You prob won't have trouble getting action for your next 700k.
Good response

Anyway, don't wanna highjack the thread with stupid talk.

WCG is running like Jesus on coke!
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:49 PM
anyone know how much up is the WCGRider?
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder
34 minutes played, 149 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 149 hands +$40,458
Sauce1234 149 hands -$40,498
1h 20 minutes played, 348 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 348 hands +$48,260
Sauce1234 348 hands -$48,353
1h 54 minutes played, 480 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 480 hands +$46,195
Sauce1234 480 hands -$46,322

3h 2 minutes played, 818 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 818 hands +$79,588
Sauce1234 818 hands -$79,804
3h 35 minutes played, 972 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 972 hands +$133,636
Sauce1234 972 hands -$133,889
4h 13 minutes played, 1154 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 1154 hands +$155,702
Sauce1234 1154 hands -$156,003
4h 48 minutes played, 1338 hands played.

Code:
WCGRider 1338 hands +$101,532
Sauce1234 1338 hands -$101,880
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeCRUSHnitz
Well yes, I prefer to be greater than 100BB and while this is not a good thing it might not be as huge an impediment as suggested. Poker is not black & white, same as the ebb & flow of a HU match IS important despite it not being important if we were all bots and thus people will try tell you it is not important. I am not a bot and do not try to pretend I can think like one and therefore never fail to see the logical theoretical side of things no matter how much pressure I'm under in a match. We all come under pressure and all convince ourselves to think that certain illogical thought process are ok e.g. No matter how much Sauce balances his ranges do you really think that j10 suited shove he did today is part of his A+ game? Personally I don't like to be 400BB less than my opponent. I do see it as a weakness but not as a lol factor (though you didn't lol) that automatically means "dude is clueless." It is also a weakness to think too theoretically and too structured and believe that everything that doesn't add up is just plain wrong and anyone who says otherwise thus has a huge weakness in this area. While that is likely true it is not cast in stone. I have played over 700K hands of HU and am still standing and I can tell you the psychology of HU poker is in ways as important as all the theory in the World. To prefer to be even stack with your opponent rather than 400BB less is far from a catastrophic mindset imo.
it's not catastrophic itself, but it suggests a bunch of other issues.

you're right that psychology is important in HU poker. not getting annoyed in a high variance game by things that are mathematically irrelevant is important, and recognizing those who do feel this effect presents another opportunity for profit.
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by terp
it's not catastrophic itself, but it suggests a bunch of other issues.

you're right that psychology is important in HU poker. not getting annoyed in a high variance game by things that are mathematically irrelevant is important, and recognizing those who do feel this effect presents another opportunity for profit.
Completely true.

I'm not saying it tilts me though. I just prefer to be deep.
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 05:07 PM
thanks vanilla thunder
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 05:24 PM
Poker candy.

Full Tilt Poker, Holdem NL - $100/$200 - 2 players
HSDB Parser v2.2 - Highstakesdb.com - Hand #1354073

WCGRider (BU/SB): $152008.04 (760 bb)
Sauce1234 (BB): $18551.25 (93 bb)

Pre Flop: ($300)
WCGRider (BU/SB) raises to $480, Sauce1234 (BB) 3-bets to $1440, WCGRider (BU/SB) calls $960

Flop: ($2880) 9 4 3 (2 players)
Sauce1234 (BB) checks, WCGRider (BU/SB) bets $2000, Sauce1234 (BB) calls $2000

Turn: ($6880) J (2 players)
Sauce1234 (BB) checks, WCGRider (BU/SB) bets $4000, Sauce1234 (BB) calls $4000

River: ($14880) A (2 players)
Sauce1234 (BB) bets $11111.25 (all in), WCGRider (BU/SB) calls $11111.25

Total pot: $37102.5 (Rake: $0.5)

Showdown:
WCGRider (BU/SB) shows T K
(Equity - pre: 65%, flop: 48%, turn: 68%, river: 100%)

Sauce1234 (BB) shows 6 5
(Equity - pre: 35%, flop: 52%, turn: 32%, river: 0%)

WCGRider (BU/SB) wins $37102
Douglas &quot;WCGRider&quot; Polk vs Ben &quot;Sauce&quot; Sulsky - High Stakes HUNL Challenge Quote
09-15-2013 , 05:26 PM
Yup sicko call with the K high, read the busted draw like an open book. He is really on top now, can do no wrong. Sauce might be as well quitting for today.
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