that's all that should matter in ANY form of advantage gambling

Even a bigger hustle than the one Durrrr had on Jungleman. Gratz WCGrider for getting a fish to play him 200/400 for 25k hands.

So he won 30 BI at 12bb/100.
Waiting to see the blue line/red line and all-in graph. Can WSOP.com send you hand histories that you can import to HEM/PT4?
PT4 has a overall luck bell curve, meaning how many times you hit sets, flushes and straights. Would be nice to see if that supports Dnegs claims of being unlucky with draws.

Both are competitive guys and you can only wonder what Polk would say if he lost this one.

I'm sure that fish will happily play you HU, any high stakes, Mr. Internet Tough Guy

kinda interested in the details of how Doug analysed the game apart from plugging hands into solver

listen to the post challenge interview from today on the upswingpoker twitch channel

Took me by surprise that he had coaches tbh, but it should have been obvious in retrospect.

Bill Perkins also talks about this "accelerated learning program". That's the reason why he bet on Dneg as underdog half-way through.
Didn't quite catch the details but he said it would be public later on some point.

Thanks for the show. That was amazing. GG

All bad regs think they are “good” for the game.. just like how every woman thinks theyre not the “crazy” one

I think we just witnessed and applauded one of the biggest bum hunts of all time...

Dnegs is like that homer fan that will bet on his team w no spread despite being a TD underdog.

The biggest take away from the match is to find an arbitrage in any game or business and exploit it by using fundamentally sound reasoning and not emotions.

Congrats and gg. Thanks for the challenge, regardless of the results this was good for poker.

Oh man, I wasn't expecting Joey to get emotional at the end of the stream. That touched even this emotionless monkey. It's been a great ride, looking forward now to the post-mortem videos.

Not sure if Doug was being nice or hustling for a future sidebet action by giving so much credit to Daniel.

I guess his pf, flop and turn plays are pretty close to being good but he made huge river mistakes constantly. Very hard to see him being even close to top-100 heads up. He could be in future though if he wants to keep putting in the work.

Someone with Doug's aggression but without Doug's often times silly river calls would still crush Daniel 20bb/100 imo.

Listening to Doug talk about all of the work that went into his game for this challenge is really eye opening.

On one hand, the tools that are now available to analyze your poker game are miles ahead of what was around even a few years ago. On the other hand, it sounds like it takes a sh*t ton of work to actually generate and then absorb that information and implement it into your game.

What's incredible is that Doug has undoubtedly made more money from Bitcoin during the past 6 months than from this challenge, including all side bets. Polk is on a ****ing lifetime upswing.

He put himself possibly in the top10 after all this work. Obviously it takes a **** ton of work to get there.


man just casually hires btnclicker though. Wonder how much that costed him.

So Polk took coaching from two top 5 HUNL players in the world and had access to a super-enhanced GPU solvers which solves preflop in seconds - while the underdog Negreanu took coaching from unknown live pros. There are levels to this game.

two things:

(1) everyone saying Dnegs is a better poker player than Doug is IMO vindicated

(2) Did Doug break WSOP rules by collecting stats on his opponent?

HU has come an incredible long way out from the individual sport it was. I must say I really dislike what became of it in this match, especially on Doug's side. Dude said he'd wake up in the morning and there'd be charts with specific instructions waiting for him. Undoubtedly this further ushers in the new way of poker but I reserve the right to not enjoy it.

Also, I'm no expert at any means and have never used any solvers or applied GTO but purely as a spectator I found it less entertaining the way how passive the flop and the turn play have become. Apparently current theory dictates that you keep betting small on earlier streets and virtually never 3bet post flop (save for the river maybe). Makes for rather dull game to watch. Say, anyone care to briefly explain why getting it in no later than on the turn seems totally obsolete, even in 100bb eff spots?

I think it's more a result of how passive DN was. It was a huge advantage to DP to get to the river as he appeared to massively outplay DN there.

If DN had upped his aggression earlier in the hand DP would have had to modify his strategy.

I didn't recognise the two names Doug gave in his interview - are they widely known / nicknames on Stars etc outed?

This challenge was seriously the most man **** I've ever seen. I literally don't know where we can possibly go from here.

https://youtu.be/FJl4LSWXoZg?t=97

I have a couple guesses but I won't AIDS up the thread with horrible strat.

Joey, thank you for coming by to stream a few days in. Hoping for many hours long streams in the near future.

Congrats, Doug. Enjoy whatever you do.