Why? I'm not a professional poker player. I love the game, qualified for the ME and went all the way to Vegas to have fun. I would have loved to be on a table with someone like Hellmuth or Ivey for the sheer thrill and entertainment...

1. I admit that the Gus comment I made was quite stupid. But I guess when you're expecting something and see something totally different then you get a shock (shouldn't have been shocked though, i remember Gus walking into the Main Event while getting dressed lol)

2. Smurfit wasn't doing me a favor. I was a massive chip leader 3 handed, and he just wanted to make anything out of it. And by the way, he was distraught after he lost the satellite. By the way, this poker pro 'Tim West' was on our table before all the success he had this year (and he'll remember the the $1k qualifier because a horrible mistake by the dealer happened which royally ****ed him lol), and there was also that guy who played the WPT Paris final table Tim Anders. I don't know if they were around when we were 3 handed, but if they were I'd love to ask them.

3. The dealer was telling me that this is Vedes' normal way on the table. Again, the guy is a great guy, went for a smoke with him and he was fun to talked to but he seemed like too much of a degen. He was telling me how the Steven Begleiter hand (AQ v KK) tilted him big time for the rest of the Main Event after I told him that he was just on ESPN.

4. Tony Hachem was indeed obnoxious to the dealer. Exactly like what people say about his brother HOWEVER between hands when we'd chat, he completely forgets about it and talks to the entire table and in fact me and him chatted for a while. I wish him all the best because he's a very good and friendly guy, but I can't deny that he was annoying the table and the dealers all the time.

5. What about Merciers results this year?

6. Again, the video I was talking about was way before Tony G got lucky with his business and his sponsorship of the Lithuanian national basketball team etc.

7. You can be the best player in the world but still be a cheater? I don't get your comment on Sorel Mizzi? Look at what's happened to that poker phenom Girah...People were mesmerized by his play and now he's going down because of cheating. Sorel Mizzi is an incredible tournament player, but for some reason he always seems broke. I don;t know if it's his bankroll management skills, his degen ways etc. But he's always broke...always being staked, always involved in cheating scandals...

Just thought I'd reply to your comment.

Cheers

To the OP :
Dude you are making too much incorect asumtions based on your observations .
Conclusion and advice : Don`t make generral conclusions about anything just from 1 or 2 situations or events .

it is like pyramid imo.
we all always try higher stakes, good and lucky ones stay. rest goes down again.
and none will beat the sheikh.

also poker money is somehow easy to spend although it is hard to earn.

I learned today that playing good poker is about being manly.

This thread is very bad.

you've covered like less than 0.01% players of the community. You've also managed to fail to account for only poker cash flow. There are alot of busto poker players out there, because of the lifestyle they lead. Though still a winner in poker.

poker players gonna play poker

OP is Forrest Gump. One trip to the Bellagio and he played poker with Hickok-and didn't like how he played Aces over 8s.

What do you mean by Pro? The thing that you see them in every poker show?
They are media persons. For your entertainment. Just think that all these guys have their own feature. No two similar players at the table.
It's a matter of a big effort to mantain your skill up to the mark every year.
I'm watching nguen drinking at National heads-up...what should i think? I even don't believe that he wrote those books with his name on the covers.
i think all that CursedbyaGypsy said is the truth.
A billonair doesn't have all his capital in fu..ng cash
i thought west guys should know that
Wow i'm watching Ivan Demidov online now... Not seen him long time (today read this thread - today catched him)...
He's team poker stars player and Bronze Star

Why is the OP and others ITT so obsessed with counting other people's money and estimating different poker player's net worth?

+1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKtd...rec_grec_index

you don't know me....

new to this thread and dont feel like going through all the pages. Does this turn out to be a level?

posting in legendary troll thread

beal wasnt upset about the money he was upset he lost and was outplayed by ivey

Hard to say the way they were donking off stacks on middle pair and no redraws on poker host at 4:00am today...It did however quadruple my $25 deposit

Pathetic...every one wants to believe in the dream...nobody wants to admit that without sponsorship and backing ALL poker players end up broke...

This^

Some several times! Think the ride is the thrill for many!

No money in poker, everyone's broke.

Congratulations on an interesting post and on your remarkable skills in writing in a youthful American midwestern style. Most Egyptians learn British writing style. Your flawless American language and syntax are unusual.

I notice most of your examples are of tournament players and you miss the world of cash game players who have no celebrity and actively avoid it. Because of their lack of celebrity they are much more difficult to identify but can and do make consistent profits.

lol went to an American school here so I guess that's why. And watch too much American TV. English is still my second language.

Maybe you're right about the cash game players even though I would feel that they are subject to more swings that tourney players. Again, there were a lot of 'cash game' specialists that were acting very odd throughout my visit there.

In fact, the only player I saw in Vegas that seemed like he was doing very well for himself was Erik Seidel who was with me on the flight back to London with his daughter. lol, he checked in right before us, so I told the guy on the counter "Wow! You just talked to a poker legend!" and he and the woman next to him were like "Never seen him before" so I told him he was called Erik Seidel...so the guy looked at the computer and was like "I shouldnt be doing this, but yes, that is Erik Seidel" lol.

We talked about Egypt and stuff and he said he wanted to visit and asked if it was safe or not...And he actually gave Egypt props on my twitter account haha. That was pretty cool.

I don't know why I'm talking about this but oh well....

I don't get the feeling that all poker players are going broke. After following the Girah scandal, I'm starting to get the feeling that there are not as money good to great poker players that claim to be.

It seems like there are some really good players like Jungleman, surrounded by an Entourage of players who wish they were good, or claim to be good, like Girah.

I mean they seem to have this Skype group of around 40 people and they are always watching each other play with teamviewer or w/e. One person per hand, yeah ok.

Must be nice to have someone with a considerable skill level watching you play, someone who might be able to pick up on certain things that you miss. Of course they all say that this is just for coaching/training and they never talk about a hand in play. But yeah,ok, wtf ever.

Then here comes there little "prodigy", whom they hype to no end, and they let him see their hole cards and they are appalled that he would be superusing them. It's just hard to have much sympathy for them.

Of course not...

"In the ‘end’ there is no such thing as a ‘winning’ player."
Really?
PTR: "nanonoko", "omgclayaiken", "mrsweets28", "0human0"

People used to say:

Really?
"Tom Dwan", "Phil Ivey", "Brian Townsend", "Cole South" etc

You just have to wait and see. Doesn't matter how good you are, eventually, I believe, you will eventually lose a large sum of your bankroll sooner or later and won't be able to make it back.

I have to admit though, Galfond seems like he knows what he's doing. He seems...careful with money when he's not gambling.

So let's just wait and see. After Nanonoko's performance on the Big Game, I doubt he'll be making as much as he was online and eventually will lose.

Hope I'm wrong.