I think you forgot to mention the part where he affected a Caribbean accent. Look dude, it's entertainment and if you don't like it don't watch it.

DNegs doubling down on that topic I'm not allowed to mention today in the most cliched and cringeworthy way possible. What an utter asshat.

It’s actually not that crazy that DN may not be able to beat 25NL in 2019. Donkaments are a lot softer than cash, but they are still a joke. And lol at the people telling me and others to play. I’m glad I don’t waste my time in these things. Getting good at cash was the best decision I ever made.

lol at DN not being able to beat $25NL. Have you seen his videos on his old site? I don't know if he can beat $500NL or not, but that's ridiculous.

For real. 25NL is not some elite wizard-tier level of poker. If anything, any thinking player should be able to beat that with a pretty ABC style and solid fundamentals. I've played my fair share of 6-max 25NL on Ignition and it's not a tough game.

He finally did good cashing 150k and ofc decided to donate 25k in plo high roller for absolutely no reason. He’s drawing stone dead in that mtt, wtf

"Drawing Stone Dead in a single PLO Tournament"
- ProffesionalMalaka 2019

Yes, he’s that bad.

Let’s do some math:

Daniel Negreanu lifetime estimated live cash game losses: $10 Million.

Over $3 million was shown on TV and anyone who is familiar with the big games in Vegas knows that Daniel is one of the biggest fish and has blew well over $10 Million. I’ll go with $10 million as a conservative loss.


Daniel Estimated online Poker Losses: $2 Million. Graphs have been shown of his “confirmed” losses on his regular account. Another conservative estimate here.


Daniel’s estimated tournament winnings: $10 Million. Daniel is profitable at the WSOP but most of his success came during the poker boom. He has been losing for several years in a row now so I expect this number to decline since he has no real edge in these tournaments anymore.

Daniel is obviously not broke. He got a nice inheritance from both of his parents dying early in his life. He was going to be a millionaire just by inheritance. He also has made over $20 Million from Pokerstars and other endorsements. I’d estimate his net worth to be about $15 Million after taxes and life expenses. However, evidence shows that he is not a lifetime winning poker player. Most of the reason for this is his huge live cash game losses and online poker losses.

yeah
because you know what private super soft cash games he's played in right

Negreanu was without a single doubt -EV in the 25k PLO. Hell, pokershares had him at a markdown in the event and their business model is to charge a margin on top of someone's true ROI, so that should say something about his chances in that event

I think in his book he says he used to be first cash game player, so I'm not sure he always lost playing those games. Correct me If I am wrong.

In other words, you thought of it, so it must be true. I'm not certain that's how "math" works.
You know Daniel had $4.5 million in tournament cashes in 2018 according to Hendon Mob, right?

When Daniel is known to have made 48 rebuys in a single tournament, using gross cash may not be a suitable metric for his poker ability (or even his financial success).

Phil Hellmuth has cashed for 23 million. He also plays every single event since the 80s. Do you think he is actually in the black?

Somehow the above reminds me of that scene in "Spaceballs" where Barf and Lonestar see another man in the diner vomiting violently only for them to then stand up together and say "Check please!"

I would put my $ on a random 2P2er beating DN HU. He simply isn't good at poker from my perspective.

He’s been on Twitter threatening to out people who have dishonestly borrowed money from him. Claims that the figure is closer to 8 figures than 7!!!! Could get interesting.

Did anyone inform him about the "old school vs new school" when it comes to owing money?

What the... Yes? This is getting ridiculous. People implying that folks who have played poker, while doing literally nothing else, for their entire life, somehow is supposed to not be in the black. Lol.

Lol @ thinking Phil Hellmuth pays all his buyins.

How long until the first son of poker is welcomed into the community? Little Haitian Negreanu…… I'm betting never. I'm insta calling faster than Johnny World did with a pair of sixes vs Negreanu's open pair of fives.

I just explained and it has been discussed in a Polk video that Hellmuth is at least +200% ROI in WSOP events. There are plenty of pros -ROI in them, but not the guy with the bracelet record.

Hellmuth doesn't play every event. He's skipped a few this year to sleep/rest/take his parents out for their birthday. He's skipped days in the past to go to Golden State games, family events, etc.

He also doesn't play multiple tournaments like others. The one he is playing is the only one.

You understand that he probably is staked, sponsored, gets paid for appearance/commentating and play in private games on the side?

Opinion of Chris Kruk (Apotheosis) who actually play the shr and may know more than you or me.



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Edit: Even the "more rake is better" geezer made this point on his own podcast (even finding it entertaining to speculate/out losers). Basically saying that the official numbers are wildly speculative and that there's a bunch of 10m+ winners who are stuck. It is a very flawed metric since it doesnt account for net earnings, selling shares and similar crucial variables.

Now that the stars gravy train is over, he is already feeling the pinch.