Widespread veganism.... I love Sage posts but now it has jumped the shark.

meat and fish, yes in many ways.

E.g. some regions are heavily reliant on fishing for self sufficiency and/or exports.

If everyone was Vegan how would the restaurant business look? I'd imagine the variety and volume of restaurants would shrink by ~80%.

American, French, Italian, Spanish, Chinese etc cultures would have to drastically change to remove meat, fish, poultry, milk and eggs from them.

Vegans are a very small minority who are slightly blinkered IMO. 0.5% in the USA, 1% in the UK. If I were a Vegan I would just get on with it and keep it to myself.

Again I don’t think you know as much as you think. You are assuming you can’t get things similar to what you eat now and it’s way to expensive, maybe the world is evolving Bc amazing you can now make almost anything surprising close to meat with very little extra cost if you do some planning


I’m not vegan I just know this Bc when I hang out with them we need to eat vegan, I actually quite enjoy everything I’ve had

Maybe it’s because of where I live(Vancouver) that we seem to be more environmentally friendly/healthier then most of America

And one more thing, you do know cows give off more emissions then cars right ?

What I don’t like about vegan is the lifestyle, hating on everyone who isn’t , like a religion, as far as the foods and wether or not it’s healthier for you , is kinda ridiculous argument without looking into it

I've lived in Vancouver and my brother has lived there for 12 years.

The place has more salad bars in it than in the whole of the UK and you can't move more than about 12 feet without coming across a blueberry.

Natural food and health food shops are everywhere and the standard of living is high.

So it is you could say a health food/healthy living utopia. Did I mention the roller skaters and cyclists too.

Alas, all of the conditions above are not practical in the real world to replicate everywhere.

The cows thing is a good point.

I can’t live without meat, however, for our bodies and our land I believe we should limit the amount and the conditions we have for the animals we produce and minimize the amount of waste

Don’t think anyone is surprised Danny is a vegan, seems to go hand in hand with being a voice center member

Hi Everyone:

First off, after a fair amount of research, i’ve become a low carb person and have finally lost some weight with a Keto diet.

Not too long ago I looked at Negreanu’s website and that’s where I saw his high carb — 200 grams a day, and low fat diet. I’ve done a lot of reading on the subject and in my opinion this should keep him fat and slowly make him sick as he grows older; and part of my reason for posting this is that when Negreanu sees this coming from me that should make him more reluctant to change.

Also on his website, and this was in some of his tweets that were being reposted, was the idea that a Keto diet was no good because you have to eat lots of meat. Of course, this isn’t true since there is such a thing as a Keto vegetarian diet. What Negreanu needs to understand is that despite his poker success he has very little education and doesn’t, again in my opinion, have the ability to talk knowledgeably about many of his topics.

Best wishes,
Mason

Haha back to the Danny bashing, thanks mason we were getting off topic tgere

And the highest drug abuse level in Canada.

https://www.drugrehab.ca/drug-addiction-vancouver.html

Coincidence?

Lol linking salads to drug abuse, interesting....

Hi golfbum:

It’s really not Danny bashing but just the way I see things. It’s my experience that people with poor educations, especially when compared with those with a strong education in a technical field, just don’t do that well when it comes to critical thinking. Of course, there are always exceptions and sometimes these people are able to master a particular field fairly well, but i’m certainly reluctant to take advice from them.

Best wishes,
Mason

I don’t think he’s stupid, just seeens stubborn, hard to convince, stuck in his ways,

For example if he studied business you now feel he would be more educated on keto diets, Veganisn and whatever other odd things he choices , I think it’s more his odd quirkiness

I may not agree with everything you post but couldn't agree with this more. I grew up as part of the food pyramid/high carb generation. Minimal research shows the folly of this "high carb" lifestyle. I too am currently using a keto diet for multiple reasons and have never felt better. People like DN mistakenly believe that meat is necessary for keto because they believe it is a high protein high fat diet. This is incorrect, it is a high fat, low carb and moderate protein diet. Thus, many maintain ketosis with a purely vegetarian diet.

I, however, love me some steak.

I think this is in part explained because the climate is milder so drug users, specifically those who are down on their luck and become nomadic or homeless, move from the colder parts of Canada (which is basically everywhere else) to Vancouver/BC.

I'm a big fan of keto

Also there is a huge community of them, so is lots of assistance for food, shelter, drugs , clean needles, for anyobe who comes to downtown east side first time might think they are in a zombie apocalypse, thousands of drug users wondering around on drugs(most have mental health problems)

Cost of living keeps going up, seems only getting worae

Carbs as a general rule are not bad. It's carbs with a high glycemic load, ie those which raise the blood sugar quickly, which wreak havoc with the body, both in terms of their effect on organs, energy, and mood, plus their stimulating yoyo effect on the appetite. But there's nothing wrong with keto either. I personally prefer a compromise between the two, eating less carbs than the average person but far more than a strict keto.

While nutrition both is and also isn't rocket science (in the end it likely is more advanced than rocket science when it all comes down to it..), how about this crazy idea: Moderation

High fat and low fat diets don't matter for weight loss or body composition or even health when calories and protein-intake is equated. Higher carbs will in general be better for a highly active/hard training individual, since it's the bodies preferred source of energy (over fat). For a moderately or low-active person a keto-ish (or general low-carb) diet can work well if one finds it easier to adhere to and not binge out on donuts on the regular.

I've dieted to very low bodyfat on both keto and high carbs. Both works, though carbs are preferred if you want to lift weights effectively or sprint or whatever the **** you want to do to move around. It's about the total calories. Eat mostly unprocessed whole "healthy" foods. Crazy thoughts, I know.

DN has terrible genetics and has spent his life mainly sedentary. Trying to get sexy in a month in his 40's ain't gonna work well.

Hi Loctus:

While I’m certainly not the expert in the subject, based on much of my reading, I believe that most Keto experts would disagree with much of what you say above.

Best wishes,
Mason

How many professional athletes are Keto?

Lebron James

Wrong...He did it for 2 months during the off season one time. Also what he did was not Keto as he was eating far less fat than is required for it to be considered a keto diet.

Your point? Best athlete in the world, and he was training hard during those 2 months. The guy spends like 2 million dollars a year on his body. During those 2 months, he was probably more active than most people are for their whole lives. Had one of his best seasons ever coming off that keto-summer, after 15-ish years in the NBA.

Again it was not Keto. He simply cut out sugar dairy and ate very few carbs for 2 months. If Keto was great for athletic performance many athletes would do it but it's not and they don't.

Also when has Lebron not had a great season?

Says who? I mean, just google "Lebron James keto". Who is the authority that defines the parameters of a keto diet, and why do they have more credibility than the nutritionists of the person who spends the most money out of anyone else in the world on their diet?

The Keto diet is low carb high fat. Everything I've read on what Lebon did says he was eating lean meat and fish along with fruits and vegetables. That is not a Keto diet. Besides your argument is silly anyway. Even if he did pure Keto he ditched it after 2 months.