41% more accurate.

Also Jen Harman. Most people don't take her seriously because she doesn't have a D, also doesn't play a ton because she is incredibly wealthy. She's actually world class at mixed games, much better than everyone except Op on that list.

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Lol this

I think Daniel would not beat high stakes over a large sample, unless he has a superuser account

Fourteen pages. Fourteen pages of posters before someone missed the sarcasm of the post. NVG, proud of you.

You're probably thinking in terms of people who play more then 4 tables, if someone played 3 or less tables then 50k would be a decent enough sample. It's funny cuz everyone is used to multitabling but you see edges incresing by a huge amount the closer you get to 1 table. I'm not saying DNegs gonna have a good chance at being +ev but if he is 1 tabling then he doesn't need 1 hand more then 50k.



The game is just that different when you scale the spectrum of variance between 8+tables and 3 or less tables. There's a reason why some of the biggest and long term winner play 4 or less tables and endless breakeven players are mass tablers.

I think he could just like many others but it would take a ton of work from him. First he would need to cut a short bankroll and start at 200nl and basically start from the beginning. He'd have to accept that he may even end up in the micros until he learns to play correctly. He'd be able to win at least marginally at say 5knl but it would require a year or 2 at least until he grinded his way up and knew how to play online poker. AS is now the obvious is obvious.


He'd get crushed at mid stakes for sure right now.

Daniel would crush any game any stakes any opponent. GOAT

To think he even has a chance to beat 400NL+ w/o bumhunting these days is pretty laughable

You're not even wrong.

I would like to introduce this thread into evidence as exhibit 1A on behalf of the Royal Unban Wagon.

I do find it interesting how much timex struggled with 500 zoom. I know it's an extremely tough pool, but it's pretty shocking how different the skill sets are.

They aren't as transferable as one would think (at least from tourney to cash).

When I came back playing poker again in like 2011-2012 I was basically told that DNegs was considered the world's best poker player atm.

Ridiculous what a position tournaments have in publics relation to poker. If you go to Twitch there's always MTT streamers up top. All respect to JCarver but if people wanted to learn how to play good poker they are missing so many good cash streams out there.

Heard both FullFlush and Ansky state that DNegs is good at targeting the fish (talking them into fold etc) but either of them seems to rate his overall game. That **** obv doesn't work against good players.

What's he supposed to say? He's one of the biggest faces of poker.
There is a huge gen pop of poker fans/casuals who aren't the same as the hardcores on 2+2.
Negs is supposed to be one of the best players in the world to these casuals. So it makes sense: Negs gave a nod to the online players saying 'no' as his first answer, and then he did his public relations thing. He is not delusional. He knows he can't beat that game.

his skills in other forms of poker is irrelevant, he would not beat online nlhe cash

Maybe deep down he knows. But the thing is when someone says he'd bet a million dollars that he can beat 25/50 with 2 weeks training and he's rich enough for you to take that statement seriously obviously he's going to get called out and should be ridiculed the shi out of.

There are thousands of players who tried to get there by putting in thousands of hours, using the most advanced tools they could find. Young, smart people extremely hungry for success. Out of those thousands of players maybe 10 have been consistently beating those stakes for the past couple of years. Timex was extremely frustrated to find that despite trying really hard (the hardest he has in years) he could not seem to beat Z500 after a couple of months of intense studying and playing. The best players don't even play Z500.

And in comes Daniel - 'GIVE ME 2 WEEKS AND I'M READY FOR 25/50'. The level of absurdity of that statement is akin to a bar brawler who's out of shape watching a MMA match between 2 elite fighters and saying 'JUST GIVE ME 2 WEEKS AND PUT ME IN THAT CAGE. WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW IS I HAVE A COUPLE OF TRICKS UP MY SLEEVE. AND THE HEART OF A CHAMPION.'

If he tried really, really hard he could MAYBE achieve the level of success of fellow live pro Gus Hansen, which is a long term loserate of -3bb/100 in highstakes games. Though I doubt even that.

a lot of unwarranted Dneg hate, but he brings it on himself with all the off the cuff things he says. If he feels he can beat highstakes you think part of him would do it to shut everyone up(and not for only 1000 hands). I think he doesnt do so well because his tournament brain makes him such a station, and online hes probably convinced hes playing against software not players, but even in a live settings iv heard hes not the best at cash games,, and I know HSN poker is edited and condensed in 1 hour so you dont see the different table dynamics plus I can see the hole cards but Daniel has just made some really bad MTT type moves making crying calls in 4 bet pots theres no way he could be a consistant winner in those games he played as bad as jamie gold at times, and he wants to try the same stakes online? Even during the poker boom did he ever have significant online success?

Which records are you refering too,his wsop cashes, you realize those are just cashes they dont include his buyins or travel cost, a couple years back he cashed for million but his buyins were a million, you do realize most of his income is from pokerstars right? Do you know how much it cost to grind highstakes tournaments? And why do you think hes so good at mixed games, hes out of touch because he was well off before poker evolved to what it is today and a lot of his views are from the mid 2000s where his information is irrelevant you cant tell me Vaneessa selbst and jason mercier,jason koon lucky chewy etc, arent better than daniel today... If he didnt get his lucrative sponsorship from stars its possible he would have wound up like many from his era broke or stuck grinding on stakes, or playing lower limits
,, now you can argue Dneg managed his finances ,branding and investment opportunities better than even the top players of today but thats another argument.

funny, I always thought daniel wasthebum others hunted.

DN is a ****ing embarrassment. He should be humble and give credit to online players who can lyrically sodomize him at NLHE. Instead he insults them by claiming he can beat them after 2 weeks of "study". DN is a charming guy, a good "ambassador" but when he refuses to acknowledge the truth he makes a laughing stock of himself. He's like a 50-year old hag wearing miniskirts because she's deluding herself that she still "got it". DN is "best player in the world" only to people who have no clue about the state of poker today - a typical representative would Joe Shmuck from the drunken home game with his buddies. To them... DN is GOAT

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What is lyrical sodomy?

The real answer is he could do it if he were willing to put the time and work in, but hes not its like a successful business owner being challenged to start another business at a time in his life were he has no desire to do so, especially if hes already rich he wont have the same hunger to put in 10 hour days of grinding,but coming of his couch and jumping into the deep in probably not a great idea.

are u as good as danny negano?

This. Online players can beat Negreanu in a rap battle?

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