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06-05-2016 , 02:54 PM
Ferguson's restroom breaks at the Rio ought to be interesting. On the other hand he might have a RV in the parking lot like some of the big names.
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06-05-2016 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by highhustla
Everyone did NOT get their money back. You muppets who don't know anything need to stop spreading misinformation.

Those who did get it back were not repaid by Lederer or Ferguson.

They will never deserve a pass.
I think there were around 1,500 players that still haven't gotten paid yet. If I'm wrong I will stand corrected.
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06-05-2016 , 02:59 PM
Nobody has the balls to do anything to him or any of the others in a meaningful way. He knows it. So why would he avoid going to the wsop?

Bitching and making threats online are completely different to when you have to say it to his or any of there faces.
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06-05-2016 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
Nobody has the balls to do anything to him or any of the others in a meaningful way. He knows it. So why would he avoid going to the wsop?

Bitching and making threats online are completely different to when you have to say it to his or any of there faces.
you would think guilt would make him not want to show his face but you're right everyone else would be smart enough to not do anything to him cause they would only hurt themselves and gain nothing
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06-05-2016 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter6945
I think there were around 1,500 players that still haven't gotten paid yet. If I'm wrong I will stand corrected.
If PokerStars doesn't step in (forced by the DOJ) to buy FTP and make all of the players hole, NO ONE gets paid back.

No one gets a pass; Lederer, Bitar, Furgeson all were on the board, and all stole your money. They are infinitely richer now than before FTP. They did not pay back the money, the fact that a third party made players whole does not change what they did.
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06-05-2016 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
If PokerStars doesn't step in (forced by the DOJ) to buy FTP and make all of the players hole, NO ONE gets paid back.

No one gets a pass; Lederer, Bitar, Furgeson all were on the board, and all stole your money. They are infinitely richer now than before FTP. They did not pay back the money, the fact that a third party made players whole does not change what they did.
Exactly this
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06-05-2016 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
If PokerStars doesn't step in (forced by the DOJ) to buy FTP and make all of the players hole, NO ONE gets paid back.

No one gets a pass; Lederer, Bitar, Furgeson all were on the board, and all stole your money. They are infinitely richer now than before FTP. They did not pay back the money, the fact that a third party made players whole does not change what they did.
I'm not saying you're wrong, or that they're right, BUT keep in mind what was happening before DOJ stepped in....nothing. They only thing they were doing 'wrong' was having all the money in one big account instead of segregated funds for this, that, and the other. They were paying everyone that wanted to get paid. Also, they were millionaires, MULTI millionaires *without* players deposits. FTP was making TONS of cash for everyone in -profit-, not from 'stealing' players funds.

Again, did they handle it well AFTER DOJ stpped in? No. But to say that they went in with the idea of stealing everyone's money is absurd. They were making a KILLING! Believe me, they wanted this to continue till the end of time just as bad as we did.....
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06-05-2016 , 04:25 PM
Chris Ferguson needs to say something more than I'm just here to play poker. He needs to either apologize (which will at least placate a few in the poker community) or do some action like make a 5 million dollar donation to the homeless of Las Vegas in the name of the poker community. At least with a big donation like that at least someone would benefit out of this mess.
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06-05-2016 , 04:27 PM
He's back in action today, cc @stanobv. Apparently Shawn isn't afraid to share some words.

http://twitter.com/STANobv/status/73...741377/photo/1
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06-05-2016 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh_4Q_Man
Can Someone translate what this means to those of us who are not nerds?
Gambit is known for his ability for throwing playing cards as is Chris. Gambit is part of a Thieves Guild, Chris was part of a Thieves Guild.
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06-05-2016 , 04:49 PM
At least pretend you didn't get away with millions and play the $565 buyin.
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06-05-2016 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
or do some action like make a 5 million dollar donation to the homeless of Las Vegas in the name of the poker community. At least with a big donation like that at least someone would benefit out of this mess.
EDIT: actually I don't want to get banned so not going to leave my first response to this.
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06-05-2016 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
He's back in action today, cc @stanobv. Apparently Shawn isn't afraid to share some words.

http://twitter.com/STANobv/status/73...741377/photo/1
His face says it all there.
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06-05-2016 , 05:19 PM
i thought ftp paid everyone when stars bought it.

with what people (country ?) ftp still has debts ?
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06-05-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by urubu222
i thought ftp paid everyone when stars bought it.

with what people (country ?) ftp still has debts ?
Full Tilt had like 300mil of the 900 that they were supposed to have as player deposits. Stars bought them and took on the debt, paying the difference. That 600mil had been distributed to the owners as profit over the years.

I'm prob way off on the figures, think it was more than 600mil.
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06-05-2016 , 05:54 PM
Just think of all the V05 hot oil treatments for his hair and dancin shoes he bought with that money
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06-05-2016 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
This is a terrible line of thinking. It's akin to someone hitting you in the face with a baseball bat, fracturing your skull. Then EMTs rush in and patch you up, and in a few years, you're healed.

"You're healed, let it go."

Everyone got their money back because of PokerStars. Not FTP, not Chris Ferguson. They stole your money to pay for their lavish lifestyle, and only paid a very small fraction of that in penalties. If PokerStars doesn't step in, that money is never returned. The board of FTP should be held in contempt by the poker community.
You have this correct. Peter stole, Paul paid it back. Doesn't meant Peter is now off the hook just because the victim is made whole.

All this said, nothing will happen to Ferguson. Maybe a cutting remark from a player, not unlike what I saw happen with JJProdigy a while back, but that's about it. Not because all is forgiven but rather because the majority of the people in that room have zero knowledge of what went down with Full Tilt, let alone Ferguson's particular involvement.
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06-05-2016 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckroost
The community as a whole is one of the most pathetic groups in the world, when it comes to putting social pressure on those who engage in activities that would lead to serious life consequences if done in almost any other field or endeavor.

The poker community sucks. You are going to have to admit it.
Is that all that different from most other groups, though?

Sports fans heckle athletes all the time, but those same fearless shouters would clam up if they ever stood face-to-face with their target. Think of the many Internet trolls who fire out Tweets to celebs, but when that person @replies, they'll wither into "oh you know I didn't mean it, you're the best" fanboy drivel.

Edit: need more of this...

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06-05-2016 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KCYoung
That look on his face. He doesnt give one rats ass. Has to take balls to show your face there. This could get real interesting real quick.
He beat the almighty Justice Department and the U.S. Government. why would he give a rat's ass about anyone or anything else? He, and Howard, must feel pretty awesome actually, given they should have gone to jail and come out penniless.
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06-05-2016 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by roddy
I'm surprised he's come back without doing a single interview about what happened.

But on the other hand, should I be surprised he just turns up out of the blue? he does have form for it.
I think he is much smarter than Howard and decided not to talk in public or give interviews about the entire fraud/fiasco. Despite the fact that he was an even bigger shareholder of the company and made more money than anyone else.
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06-05-2016 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
Nobody has the balls to do anything to him or any of the others in a meaningful way. He knows it. So why would he avoid going to the wsop?

Bitching and making threats online are completely different to when you have to say it to his or any of there faces.
@STANobv just posted a video.
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06-05-2016 , 07:11 PM
"hey chris, on behalf of all my friends, go **** yourself'


ahahaha right to his face. legend.
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06-05-2016 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RLGallday
His face says it all there.
It almost resembles a Ken Starr interview where Ken denies knowing anything at all about the raping going on at Baylor...
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06-05-2016 , 07:16 PM
Isn't that a bit disrespectful? Not calling him Dr. Furguson, I mean. Kappa
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06-05-2016 , 07:26 PM
How about Dr Madoff$$??
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