Obvious cheating. First he flash the ace. Then he begins to shuffle the muck hands to hide his evidence. Whether its collusion between player and dealer is another thing. I think its probably dealer has a grudge who ever is in seat 1. Maybe the guy didn't wear deodorant and he wanted to bust him. lol

He was joking, he didn't say that skydiver8 never played live before, he said he himself never played live before which was the point where one would realize he was just joking.

only question here is what wsop can do to resolve this. Dealer is clearly guilty, should be immediately fired/punished/made an example of. Going to be hard to prove seat 5's guilt even though he is, and seat 1 obv needs to be compensated. It's going to be hard for them to get to the truth quickly (who else got cheated?), and in the meantime all players involved can go bust/win chips from others etc.

Yeah this is what I don't get.

The important thing is that the player who got "cheated" is compensated (if cheating actually happened) and that the cheating player gets outed. Which would mean absolutely nothing would happen to him. So yeah, you are right, whether cheating did occure or not, and even if it was exposed, nothing at all would happen, because the law doesn't help and modern poker players are pussies.

it's worded poorly and not a funny joke at all considering he somehow thinks this could be incompetence. but yeah, totally got me

Yeah they rotate the dealers every half hour. It could be incompetence, it could be the guy flashing the card as a favor to a reg.

But it's still pretty overrated to see one ace. You need to know what to do with the info. There are still other aces in the deck... It's likely only useful in a close situation.

It's possible one guy would pay off a bunch of dealers. But it's not likely. Table draws are also random. Not as a random as a computer but since they high card for the seat draw the floor really does not have control of it.

In summary not likely a big cheating scandal. Likely something else.

It didn't have to be orchestrated. The dealers rotate every half hour. Perhaps the dealer and player are friends and the dealer says he'll help by flashing cards if he ever gets on the table with the friend.

What if the dealer switched with another dealer for that table when he saw his buddy on there? The dealer table move order is set in advance, it would be easy to swap with somebody because they track it only by what table the dealer was at previously.

My bet on the board is 4 diamonds and Ad was shown. Would definitely make this thread more fun

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If you look very closely, you will see that the dealer flashes several cards as he thumbs through the muck. It's only the last flash that is blatant. I believe the player in the five seat, sitting that closely, could probably see at least 5 or 6 different muck cards.

1. Compensated, how? "You lost a 12K pot that you might have lost anyway so your equity in the tournament prize pool might have gone up ...".

2. Nobody has a shred of evidence that the player was in on it. As mentioned above, maybe the dealer was just fed up with the gig and decided to "play Robin Hood" to some random player.

3. Modern poker players ... as mentioned above, why didn't anybody at the table speak up? Too busy on Twitter? Can't recognize that what the dealer did was wrong? Hoping that the dealer will help them out later?

are wsop dealers drug tested?

Can't believe some of you guys are stupid enough to delve into probability of them knowing each other. It's not like this had to be planned beforehand.

I can't believe none of the other 7 players in the hand saw this. The 1 seat is obviously not going to be looking since he is the one who bet.

Just rewatched it and:

1. He clearly checks room for anyone watching.
2. At 03 secs he corners the tabled cards to make sure it is the Ace on bottom.
3. He starts fidgiting with his watch and then picks up tabled cards.
4. Flashes directly in front of player.
5. Tables cards and quickly mixes them.
6. Before looking up and around, he stares at player whom he flashed the cards.

It is so obvious that he appears to be distracted and just fiddling with his hands that he clearly shows the player the card.

+1

On a 4 diamond board it would be a monster edge. On an Axxxx runout it's a big edge. Or KQJTx board, etc.

When someone tanks river like that, generally every other player at the table is either looking at their phone or zoning out. The dealer already double checked no one at the table was death staring him when he initially looked around. And even though everything that happened is extremely blatant to all of us watching a replayable/pausable video, it's not so blatant when you've been playing poker for 4 hours, have been out of the hand for a few minutes already and someone else is tanking a river call where you're not going to get any information until/if cards are revealed anyway. Nobody is watching the dealer in these spots.

If dealers were fired every time they flashed a card, the WSOP would have zero dealers. There are no dealers that have never flashed a card. Sometimes the exposed card affects the hand and sometimes it doesn't. In this case, no one has come forward with any info on the board or how the flashed ace affected the hand.
How did the dealer know the ace was at the bottom of the muck pile? How did he know this flashing of the ace would help his alleged cheating partner and not the other player? How did he know both player's hands? Obviously he couldn't know ALL these important facts before trying to cheat.
Either he made a mistake or he is the worst cheater/mechanic in history.
I believe all tables are on camera just like in a casino, but not 100% sure.
Cheating does go on at poker, but very unlikely that this is such an incident.
In this case, the appropriate action is to tell the dealer, " Don't play with the muck pile and don't expose cards." and then move on.

Some of you people actually think this is inadvertent??? What a joke. The integrity of the WSOP was really compromised this year. What a shame. I hope the dealer is fired and banned from the wsop for life.

Ty Stewart (@wsopSUITd) replied to her tweet.

'Have received + investigation happening asap'

Seat 9/10 is David O from Canada..

He plays cash games in montreal, ottawa, toronto, niagara falls..

Can anyone understand/hear the dialogue in the second video? Are they talking about the card being flashed, or was the whole table really just oblivious to the muck being flashed?

Honestly, it looks to me exactly like a dumb, bored dealer doing something dumb because he's bored.

But people will see whatever they want to see.

WSOP will probably want to get rid of him, in any case.

Wow, I'm shocked that ANYONE would think this was done unintentionally after watching both videos. You guys are this stupid, and you play poker? No wonder why poker isn't dead yet. You guys are literally special.