It depends on the size of the game/bet. No one is going bat an eye at a person taking 30 seconds to count down 2k in 100s, but someone taking 15 minutes to breakdown and count out a 50k brick is definitely going to raise some eyebrows. It's just a different level of disruption. If there were $5000 bills, no one would care if you took a few seconds to make sure there were actually 10 there and not 9. It's the fact that you're going through so much extra hassle to check up on the other guy.

A 50k brick? Seriously? Of course nobody is counting down a 50k brick. You would simply hand it to a floor person and have them run it through the bill counter and bring you 2 - 25k chips. These things are not a problem. You might do the same thing with a 10k band and you might choose to count 5k or less yourself. The disadvantages toward making people use chips only at those kinds of stakes far outweigh any disadvantages toward having to count a band or a brick.

Great news. Although you'd have wonder if chip runners at the Rio are going to lose their mind this summer. Can't imagine the WSOP would add an extra runner or two because of this. Not a big deal at smaller rooms.

Luckily the Rio isn't an MGM property

Yes, this is very convenient for everyone, especially when it's busy and chip runners take 10 minutes.

I will really miss this. 100's in 40/80 work well and do not slow the game down at all. I rarely play NL, so stack size isn't really important to me. As others have said, anything you can do with a 100 dollar bill, you can do with a 100 dollar chip. The difference is the potential for avoiding CTR's which I'm sure is the reason for this.

ah yes, good point.

I wish Vegas could just do rebuys like Atlantic City and always immediately change bills into chips at the table.

This is ****ing stupid and I am surprised to see a number of high stakes pros in favor for this. Cash should always play.

But "Cash Will No Longer Play at MGM Properties Until Converted Into Chips - Aria/Bellagio." So no use in getting worked up about it imo.

And I like the aria room but it is dark and my eyes suck and fish get pissed cuz I always have to make sure they have enough money before I call with my terrible hand. So if it's going to be all chips, less denominations is better imo.

Way harder to angle too as mentioned...

Commerce does fine with no cash. People prob actually gamble way more with chips in front of them than 100 bills, come to think of it.

in the big games if a guy throws in a stack of say 5,000 cash and it comes up short when you count it after the pot, they will always make it right. players dont lose their reputation when they have money.
that stuff just doesnt happen very often to worry about it. ive had more packages come over than under in my life.

Ike, just give the guy a crazy look like your gonna bone his sister then whip out this bad mama, slam it on the table and do work.

Limit is my main game as well and I usually buy 3-4 racks so that I can easily sell to a player who needs to re-buy.
When I do play plo, I always have extra big chips with me, but have never sold those to a reloading player. May have to change that now.

agreed. no one playing $10/20nl or higher is going to **** you for $1000 (minus one random person who doesn't play regularly). it just doesn't happen.

No idea, but once is too much. As you can see someone else has seen it twice.


It happens fast, very fast, it even took a second for the player to realize his cash was gone.

5k chips usually get verified upon cash in. 1k chips sometimes are as well, I have even been verified for a $500 chip.

Good. I hate the table expecting me to exchange my chips for $100 bills when another player busts or first sits down. I'm not the ****ing bank.

This seems like a good reason for banning bills.

The houses job is to run fair games that don't break fish too quickly, giving them a short breather when they are most vulnerable isn't a bad thing. Those extremely rare times when someone else tilts off big at the table are great, but not when it means they won't be back for a very long time and the regular game suffers from their absence.

Oh c'mon Dom, you know you like seeing that fat stack of hundreds haha!

I'm all for being "the bank". Sounds to me like one of those good problems.

i play a lot of live cash where bills don't play and it seems a lot better than when i come to vegas to play and cash does.

it sucks to have to swap bills you don't know anything about with the guy who needs chips and its so much easier to pull a move with bills than chips. at least at the 5/10 to 10/25 NL level IMO

i don't see how it helps the IRS against people evading taxes. If you play at a casino somewhat regularly you just keep big chips.

At least the question "how many bills are you playing?" won't have to be asked and answered 30+ times an hr. It will be a slight impediment to topping up and rebuys but it won't take too long to get used to.

ya that is patently untrue.

Could they not just have dealers keep some $100 chips in the tray so reloading is quick and easy?

Much better though, people often put bills under their stack too making it impossible to tell how much they are playing with.

If this doesn't happen immediately I suspect it will happen once there are enough comments requesting this to the management of the various MGM rooms. Each room has its own dealer/bank policies, but I think it's fair to assume that management will be very accommodating if any procedural problems or accidental slowdown of games caused due to waiting on chip runners.

We should also be clear that in Vegas at least, you don't need chips in front of you to take action in a hand, you could be sitting with 4k in front of you while waiting for a chip runner - and you will still be able to partake in the hand. Only difference is that if you lose the hand, you will have to pay in chips rather than cash once the runner returns.

Fish are always eager to leave when their chips are gone but only bills remain in front of them. Always better when the fish have chips instead of bills.

the casinos in vegas own the box so they are responsible if it comes up short. that is why most casinos have a $200 box. and the dealer is supposed to be liable if it is short. the vegas dealers wont be able to pay off a short box of $100 chips and the house wont supply it.

in some California casinos the dealers own their own box and take it with them. they are responsible if its short, and unfortunately get to keep when its over if not caught.

the answer is good quick chip runners, if they institute this rule. without that in place it will be a disaster for the larger games. as many players bring cash and will quickly hit the 10,000 rule and leave when required to do the identity thing.

fish do leave when their chips are gone but not everytime they are gone. they do leave often in my view anyway when they have gotten broke a few times. and that happens quickly as they buyin much less when they have to ask for chips after the get broke..