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if a libtard is uncomfortable with me bringing my rocket propelled grendade launcher to the table that his problem. Ben Franklin didn't die in world war 2 to disable me from bringing one into binion's casino and resort.

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06-11-2021 , 08:41 PM

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DarkOne

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God so many of you guys are idiots

06-11-2021 , 08:49 PM

#28

Siberian13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madlex

Las Vegas casinos can tell patrons they aren't allowed to bring guns on the premises. But the only thing they can do if someone carries anyway is to tell them to leave the property.

There's also the obvious issue of not knowing who carries a concealed gun, otherwise it wouldn't be concealed.

I'm curious why casinos don't have metal detectors? Or do they?

06-11-2021 , 08:58 PM

#29

Dick Tracy

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An erratic bum on drugs tried stealing a player's coat at a cardroom I used to play at, and when the floorman approached him, the bum pulled a big chef's knife out of his jacket. The floorman and a dealer quickly beat the guy into submission without getting stabbed somehow. I didn't see any of it first-hand, but it was the talk of the cardroom for a week or two.

A local reg I know of who packs heat wasn't there that night. Knife guy might have been blown away.

(The bum was a legit bum that wandered in from the street.)

06-11-2021 , 09:01 PM

#30

easyfnmoney

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FWIW, Puggy Pearson was filmed w/ 2 guns at the 99 WSOP Main Event.

06-11-2021 , 09:05 PM

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06-11-2021 , 09:08 PM

#32

ejames209

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No guns at the poker table please

if I have to wonder what a guy means when he says he's gonna fire another bullet there's something seriously wrong there

06-11-2021 , 09:11 PM

#33

YGOchamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

I am what many people would probably refer to as a "libtard," but when it comes to guns, I actually do mostly adhere to the "good guy with a gun" narrative*.

As such, I feel a bit safer in a place with reasonable CCW laws. Maybe I'm being naive, and I'm open to see some stats that will force me to rethink this, but I generally think a given person – e.g. the unstable, angry-tempered player in ECB's example – is less likely to pull something if he/she knows any given person in the room might be carrying.

Purely anecdotally, have there been many casino shootings in recent years? It's kind of hard to look up via Google, since most searches will yield the Route 91 concert incident outside Mandalay Bay four years ago.

Also, gotta agree with dude45: I don't oppose allowing casinos to honor the state CCW laws, but I also don't imagine it changes anything, what with any decent room having security. (Of course, that might be as naive as anything else I've said in this post – we've seen plenty of other incidents that make us ask, "Wait, where the hell was security when this happened??")

*For those of you who don't follow the U.S. political landscape, the stereotype is that liberals also want to disarm all other citizens. It's a subject we shouldn't get into too much per NVG rules. Just wanted to point it out, and in fairness, the stereotype of the "pro-gun" crowd also gets oversimplified quite a bit.

This is a pretty reasonable take on the issue, but I *think* I disagree with you. I'm of the mindset that I'd personally feel comfortable carrying a gun for myself (I don't fwiw), but I believe less guns in general is safer.

The idea is that introducing guns at all into the equation allows for the ability to escalate a benign situation into a deadly one. Even in your example, I believe most people would pull a gun out due to emotional distress, something that's not often deterred from others having guns. This could result in a shootout.

If the argument is that some people will carry guns anyway, therefore we should level the playing field to deter them from use -- that's fair, but I'd still argue that casino's already have security, so it would not be a planned use often at all, it would still be purely an emotional reaction, and if somebody in a rage pulls out a gun, having 5 others pull out a gun in response guarantees a shootout whereas there's a decent chance the aggressor will calm down if not antagonized further.

Anywho, it could play out a million different ways, but I believe adding more guns will end up with more overall deaths if we ran the sims.

06-11-2021 , 09:21 PM

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RussellinToronto

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dude45

Not all liberals are tards. Just the far left those people are bat **** nuts. Saw some leftist college Professor on youtube going on about how numbers are racist. Not even joking.

Not that I'm doubtful ..., but I'd like to see you post a link to that video.

Last edited by RussellinToronto; 06-11-2021 at 09:27 PM.

06-11-2021 , 09:27 PM

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madlex

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I'm curious why casinos don't have metal detectors? Or do they?

Usually the #1 reason for anything is costs. #2 is probably that it would annoy customers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Tracy

A local reg I know of who packs heat wasn't there that night. Knife guy might have been blown away.

That's one of the last things the casino wants to happen. Shots fired on the casino floor is bad bad.

Casinos usually don't even have armed guards anymore because insurance premiums for that are sky high and getting robbed doesn't cost them anything because the money is insured anyway.

06-11-2021 , 09:48 PM

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whosnext

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dude45

Not all liberals are tards. Just the far left those people are bat **** nuts. Saw some leftist college Professor on youtube going on about how numbers are racist. Not even joking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussellinToronto

Not that I'm doubtful ..., but I'd like to see you post a link to that video.

Feel free to use PM to share the link if you so desire.

But any post in this thread with such a link (really any Youtube link) will be immediately deleted.

ETA: Dammit, you posted the link while I was typing. Sorry, I am going to delete your post.

Last edited by whosnext; 06-11-2021 at 09:49 PM. Reason: added eta since I was too slow

06-11-2021 , 09:48 PM

#37

PTLou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madmansam

lolz

in related news... this thread will self destruct soon. politards just cant control themselves

06-11-2021 , 10:13 PM

#38

zica

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

I think that is a horrendous and terrible allowance. Unfortunately poker like any form of gambling and competition brings out lots of angry tempers. You can already see the writing on the wall that some unstable player gets knocked out of a tournament or loses his roll in a cash game and pulls out the weapon and starts shooting. This should not be allowed at all.

Shooting people because you got knocked out of a tournament is already not allowed.

06-11-2021 , 10:17 PM

#39

zica

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TPeck

I've seen this in a bunch of Westerns games where everybody is strapped with a revolver and it almost never turns out great for at least one of the players.

Didn't Maverick have 21 pistols including 2 derringers up the same sleeve?

06-11-2021 , 10:24 PM

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Mr.Jones

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcdog

When you say its “allowed” in Las Vegas by law, how many casinos allow them? Just because the state doesnt prohibit something doesnt mean its commonly allowed.

Any google search will show you it's allowed.

"Yes, it’s legal to carry concealed weapons in all Nevada casinos.

In fact, you may carry concealed anywhere in Nevada, except: public, meaning government buildings (with posted prohibition signs and metal detectors); buildings at airports; and schools, including colleges and day-care facilities."

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/faq-...ncealed-carry/

06-11-2021 , 10:25 PM

#41

Mr.Jones

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ladybruin

I will say, you are being watched a lot more than you think while you gamble. Allen "Chainsaw" Kessler and I use to hang out in Atlantic City. We hit a $20,000 video poker royal, he went and tossed some of it in the glove box of his car. And he is a positionally aware person. Later when we were walking to his car we saw glass all over the ground. And yup someone saw him, followed him to his car in an Atlantic city parking garage and broke into his car.

+++

You can easily be robbed walking to your car or in a casino bathroom.

06-11-2021 , 10:31 PM

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Mr.Jones

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Originally Posted by whitemares

If you're playing somewhere that at the very least doesn't have guards (not counting like a home game where the people know each other), then the answer is to find a new place to play, not bring a firearm with you to protect yourself

Firearms are great tools, but you should always seek to avoid situations where one is needed as much as is possible before anything else

Midwest has a lot of "charity" games. They are basically legal card rooms that get set up in a banquet hall or hotel convention room for the week. Only one security guard, and he's armed with a tazer. No cameras, or valet.

Why play? They allow 18 year olds, and the games are quite juicy.
The 5/10 game alone has 75k on the table.

I don't anymore, but also used to play in illegal card rooms, like the one's you'd see in the movie Rounders. Would have been nice to ccw in those days.

There's also a popular poker vlogger who's rumored to always be "packing"

Last edited by Mr.Jones; 06-11-2021 at 10:54 PM.

06-11-2021 , 10:35 PM

#43

GWCGWC

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I carried a S&W shield on my ankle when I was frequenting the poker tables in Colorado casinos. It’s perfectly comfortable. I wouldn’t want to sit at a table with an inside the waistband holster for an extended amount of time. They have signs open the door saying no weapons but concealed means concealed.

I concealed carry in NM but leave my gun in the truck because it’s tribal land so the rules are different.

I’m all for it. Hell, one of my favorite go-too’s is to get people arguing about gun control at the poker table.

06-11-2021 , 10:44 PM

#44

ejames209

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GWCGWC

Hell, one of my favorite go-too’s is to get people arguing about gun control at the poker table.

you mean to say they get.....triggered?

06-11-2021 , 10:57 PM

#45

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GWCGWC

I carried a S&W shield on my ankle when I was frequenting the poker tables in Colorado casinos.

this is exceptionally hilarious considering the biggest cash game they offer up there at blackhawk is 5-100 spread limit and all these stoned morons buy in with like $150

imagine living your life in this much fear

06-11-2021 , 11:11 PM

#46

Gzesh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madlex

Las Vegas casinos can tell patrons they aren't allowed to bring guns on the premises. But the only thing they can do if someone carries anyway is to tell them to leave the property.

There's also the obvious issue of not knowing who carries a concealed gun, otherwise it wouldn't be concealed.

Really ? They can and likely will bar you from reentry to all their casinos under common ownership if they feel like it.

Of course if you happen to show it while in some argument, there is probably a criminal assault charge in your future. If you pull it out or point it because you think some varmint is about to make off with your goods, was cheatin' ya ....good luck with escaping civil liability, Wild Bill.

06-11-2021 , 11:13 PM

#47

Gzesh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jones

Midwest has a lot of "charity" games. They are basically legal card rooms that get set up in a banquet hall or hotel convention room for the week. Only one security guard, and he's armed with a tazer. No cameras, or valet.

Why play? They allow 18 year olds, and the games are quite juicy.
The 5/10 game alone has 75k on the table.

I don't anymore, but also used to play in illegal card rooms, like the one's you'd see in the movie Rounders. Would have been nice to ccw in those days.

There's also a popular poker vlogger who's rumored to always be "packing"

His name rhyme with "The Pooper "?

06-11-2021 , 11:30 PM

#48

MHE

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I carry a piece. If I’m walking around with large sums of cash, Rolex watch, Versace shirts, I need to.
I’m not as armed as this guy though:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ghlight=pistol

06-11-2021 , 11:32 PM

#49

MHE

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GWCGWC

I used to carry the shield. Now I carry Glock 43x. Love it.

06-11-2021 , 11:44 PM

#50

Bobo Fett

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a dewd

The bad people with weapons tend to not follow the laws, at any level. If the good people are not allowed to carry, who's left?

And yet somehow this works in many countries.

Not judging either way, just pointing out that this is a little simplistic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jones

Any google search will show you it's allowed.

Actually, that quote in no way answers his question. A quick read of other people's posts in this thread, or of the article you linked to, will show you that isn't the case at all. Legal isn't the same as allowed.

Quote:

Signs posted on the doors of private businesses are not backed by the force of law. This means it’s not illegal to carry a concealed weapon into an establishment with a sign that prohibits it. It’s only requested, or strongly discouraged.

That said, if someone in authority in a place of business asks you to leave for any reason, which includes no reason, under the trespass law, you must get out. And this is the key point. If casino personnel discover that you’re carrying a gun, they have the right to ask you to vacate the premises and we assume that most casinos would. If you’re asked to leave, you should do so to avoid being trespassed, which could escalate the situation to the point where Metro is called in.

To be fair, that doesn't say either way, but it makes it pretty clear that the casino has the final say. However, this article from the same publication spells it out for you:

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/guns-casinos/

Quote:

That said, most casinos don’t permit patrons to be armed when they enter. This has been the policy for many years, so there was no reason to change it after October 1. Though it’s not against the law to carry in a casino, if the casino, being private property, asks you to leave and you don’t, you can be arrested for armed trespassing. The same goes for any other private property, such as those with no-gun signs on the doors.

And then there's this proposed law that could be passed soon:

https://networkinvegas.com/mgmgunbanbill/

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