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Can Charlie Carrel beat 500z? (Tweets about prop bet) Can Charlie Carrel beat 500z? (Tweets about prop bet)

04-19-2023 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dude45
The idea of looking your man in the eye and knowing he's bluffing because he blinks is movie bullshit. That's not to say live reads don't exist but fundamentals are far more important. Besides unless your side job is FBI profiler you probably aren't as good at live reads as you think you are
I can pinpoint someone’s hand down to the suits just by looking at their eyes and counting their pulse.
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04-19-2023 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
I can pinpoint someone’s hand down to the suits just by looking at their eyes and counting their pulse.
Lol well a lot of players certainly believe they can do just that
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04-24-2023 , 11:54 AM
Top Pro Makes Next Level Intuitive Hero Call with Ace High

none of the other top pros think he's even a winning player at any meaningful stakes, let alone consider him a top tier player.
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04-25-2023 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
Top Pro Makes Next Level Intuitive Hero Call with Ace High

none of the other top pros think he's even a winning player at any meaningful stakes, let alone consider him a top tier player.
Someone clearly isn’t on Charlies elite level
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04-26-2023 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Lol well a lot of players certainly believe they can do just that
Funny how often I have this conversation with people. Total noobs are really surprised to learn that good poker players aren't mind readers, and soooo many amateurs and shitty live pros LOVE to act like they guess right so much more often than wrong. They usually proclaim this after the hand of course.

Pathetically on my end, there have actually been times when I didn't bluff when I should just because I cannot handle being called by some tool who will then tell me they had some sort of read and that's why they called.
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04-27-2023 , 03:43 PM
I still don't understand how any rational, sane human being cannot see right through Charlie's schtick. He is a delusional street hustler trying to project good will as a hippie love and peace guy. It is painfully obvious he is not playing with a full deck either.

I also don't know why people still defend him and state things like he is not a great poker player but he is not a scammer. Really? He is falsely creating the illusion that he is a 'top tier pro' with a winning track record (a track record he is not willing to show you mind you) and stating he can teach you to be a winning player as well with the sole purpose of getting you to pay him a couple grand a month for coaching. Claiming something you are not and providing credentials that you don't have is scamming.

There is nothing good about this guy and he provides no value to the poker community. Quite the opposite. It is time everyone just ignores him, doesn't give him a platform or any additional exposure to amplify his message, and then let the market weed him out like every other poker shyster that has come and gone.
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04-27-2023 , 04:00 PM
Yeah, a little bit strange that he markets himself as a cash game coach when his track record is as a tournament player.





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04-27-2023 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi
Yeah, a little bit strange that he markets himself as a cash game coach when his track record is as a tournament player.







Well that is just a coinkydink right there

If Charlie didn't have the rep he has, wouldn't he be considered a top pro just based off his results? I'm confused. If we didn't know who he was and he created a course on Upswing or RIO and the site used his results everyone would think hes pretty elite. Which is how we judge pretty much every other coach that shows up on these training sites.

Its just weird to see the dissonance
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04-27-2023 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi
Yeah, a little bit strange that he markets himself as a cash game coach when his track record is as a tournament player.





#strongvolume
#goodcoach
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04-27-2023 , 05:13 PM


This is what deleting hands looks like.
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04-27-2023 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi


Well that is just a coinkydink right there

If Charlie didn't have the rep he has, wouldn't he be considered a top pro just based off his results? I'm confused. If we didn't know who he was and he created a course on Upswing or RIO and the site used his results everyone would think hes pretty elite. Which is how we judge pretty much every other coach that shows up on these training sites.

Its just weird to see the dissonance
HendonMob is not an accurate picture of results. Completely useless information unless you somehow know a player's total buy-in amount.
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04-27-2023 , 06:11 PM
Well known midstakes reg Zinhao called Charlie out on Twitter recently for dodging him about his $100,000 prop bet proposition. Charlie laid down the challenge and when he got action he retracted it because he "heard people wanted to mess with it".

Gimme a ****in break.
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04-27-2023 , 07:55 PM


After 10 years of looking at students graphs I think this one takes the cake for best botched deleted hands.

Look at his incline of non showdown. It’s literally the funniest thing ever.

Basically the Strat in this spot is to call down every spot. Bluff every spot then delete the big hands where you get called. You can literally see in his graph where he deletes like 5-10 hands at a time. Notice he doesn’t show his ev. I put the ev in for you
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04-27-2023 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Well known midstakes reg Zinhao called Charlie out on Twitter recently for dodging him about his $100,000 prop bet proposition. Charlie laid down the challenge and when he got action he retracted it because he "heard people wanted to mess with it".

Gimme a ****in break.
That guy is aggro af
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04-27-2023 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Well known midstakes reg Zinhao called Charlie out on Twitter recently for dodging him about his $100,000 prop bet proposition. Charlie laid down the challenge and when he got action he retracted it because he "heard people wanted to mess with it".

Gimme a ****in break.
Kakitee literally said on stream that if Carlie took the bet that he would jump in the pools to **** with him and/or tell others to do the same, this would change Charlie's EV in the pool and change what Charlie was betting on which was beating the "normal" 200 Rush pool for >= 5bb/100. People could also jump in the pool and punt off stacks to Charlie making it almost impossible for him to lose the bet.

It makes sense that he changed his mind because it's nearly impossible for him to get a "normal" 200 Rush pool if the bet were to go on.
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04-27-2023 , 09:21 PM
Cliffs- Charlie gets banned on gg for collusion
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04-28-2023 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshko


After 10 years of looking at students graphs I think this one takes the cake for best botched deleted hands.

Look at his incline of non showdown. It’s literally the funniest thing ever.

Basically the Strat in this spot is to call down every spot. Bluff every spot then delete the big hands where you get called. You can literally see in his graph where he deletes like 5-10 hands at a time. Notice he doesn’t show his ev. I put the ev in for you
I don't like Carrell but he has shown his GG poker stats from Gg website. You can't delete hands there. The GG graph doesn't include rake but it clearly showed his insane run so far.

Looks like Carrell is able to beat 200nl Zoom and is a pretty good player. I would love to see Helmuth trying this..
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04-28-2023 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Laaksolahti
I don't like Carrell but he has shown his GG poker stats from Gg website. You can't delete hands there. The GG graph doesn't include rake but it clearly showed his insane run so far.

Looks like Carrell is able to beat 200nl Zoom and is a pretty good player. I would love to see Helmuth trying this..
He could deselect losing sessions on gg to make the graph look better. Not saying that’s what he is doing but it’s possible
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04-28-2023 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaKing
Kakitee literally said on stream that if Carlie took the bet that he would jump in the pools to **** with him and/or tell others to do the same, this would change Charlie's EV in the pool and change what Charlie was betting on which was beating the "normal" 200 Rush pool for >= 5bb/100. People could also jump in the pool and punt off stacks to Charlie making it almost impossible for him to lose the bet.

It makes sense that he changed his mind because it's nearly impossible for him to get a "normal" 200 Rush pool if the bet were to go on.
The same Kakitee that doesn't know Charlie's SN and is a PLO player?
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04-28-2023 , 09:00 PM
charlie has a pretty good mind for poker from what I’ve seen, even when he goes for outrageous explo stuff it’s usually pretty sound, as cringe as he may come across sometimes one cannot deny he is a good poker player
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05-03-2023 , 03:39 PM
all of charlie's latest youtube shorts have been of him playing NL5k on stars ages ago. another way to get his potential customers thinking he's a top high stakes reg. pretty scummy.
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