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09-08-2015 , 02:08 PM

#3651

SuperSwag

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,809

Just listened to it:

Cliffs:
-Fedor gives people he doesn't know respect but couldn't stand hastings
-Hastings was playing horrible
-Hastings was being a jerk to whole table even though he had huge stack
-Fedor busts Him and Hastings says something like "These ****ing kids" and snap leaves table.

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09-08-2015 , 02:56 PM

#3652

DarkMattersMan

adept

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 960

Maybe Brian just made a mistake. He was probably just vpning on accident.

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09-09-2015 , 02:06 AM

#3653

RMB

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,266

This summer Fedor tilted Hastings by busting him... Then Hastings says something along the lines of "just busted vs most outrageous hand ever played" about some PLO hand calling out a pro, then when asked to clarify says something along the lines of "actually probably 2nd outrageous fedor's hand".

Fedor insta says "let's crossbook everything". Hastings says "we can book whatever" and Fedor makes something like a 10% proposal on everything. Brian immediately says it's too big and too much risk.

Bitch.

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09-10-2015 , 05:33 AM

#3654

PasswordGotHacked

banned

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,913

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Originally Posted by RMB

That's not a very nice thing to say about such a nice honourable gentleman

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09-10-2015 , 06:18 AM

#3655

DarkMattersMan

adept

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 960

What does cross booking mean? Thanks

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09-10-2015 , 06:31 AM

#3656

PasswordGotHacked

banned

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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan

What does cross booking mean? Thanks

Not sure if you're serious but if you are cross booking is essentially increasing the size of your stakes via a sidebet. If you crossbook for 10% for say the WSOP and win 100k the other person must pay you 10k obviously the same is also true for the opposite, lose 100k pay the person u bet against 10k

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09-10-2015 , 06:38 AM

#3657

DarkMattersMan

adept

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 960

Ahh. I see cheers. Im not familiar with side bets and action. Thanks for explaining.

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09-10-2015 , 09:39 PM

#3658

Vas Deferens

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 210

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Originally Posted by PlsFold

Laptop at table. Mouse in one hand. Food in the other hand.

Multi tasking, multi accounting, all in a days work for Noel.

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09-11-2015 , 06:09 AM

#3659

Vas Deferens

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 210

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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2

nice to see a high stakes plo regular like yourself come in here & ask these questions. no one has ever doubted your integrity, but this just cements it for me. many of the other high stakes players can't do the same. pretty clear why.

With a name like Blopp how could he be anything but nice.

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09-11-2015 , 06:50 AM

#3660

Vas Deferens

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 210

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Originally Posted by Snuffers

Your definition and my definition of cheating differ. Thusly our opinion on whether or not this is idle gossip differs as well. I'm not saying I would make the same choices BH did, I just don't think its as egregious as other errors in judgement others have made. And I think a lot of people who aren't effected by this (or won't be as lets be real, this is a non-story outside the poker community) are rallying with pitchforks at the ready.

See above....and as for whether or not I'm successful. I'm on a journey, and am a poker player. I love this game, its truly fascinating and tests me on every level every day. I never said anything about agreeing with how he's handling it, or to "stop because it's bad for business", I was trying to appeal to sensibility, and you obviously disagree with my opinion. No worries.

Ugh...gossips? well if "everyone does it", then it can't be that bad right? Bullies? I think bullies are terrible people. The person you describe (the boss at the dealership) in your 2nd paragraph is a bully IMO, and I would hope those that know me would never consider me a bully. As far as scamming substantial money its another disagreement on the meaning of the word "scam". Do I believe buying the hand histories to train to beat isildur, or the Noel Hayes/BNB MA was ethical? Maybe not, but I don't see it as a level 10 offense worthy of 2263 posts basically saying the same 4 or 5 character bashing things in different ways.

With my post, I was trying to appeal to a perspective that I have. And I realize I probably wasn't as clear as I should have been, as it could be construed as being an apologist, which I am not. Apparently those who responded or disagreed and moved on don't share my opinion or view on this situation. Which is completely fine to disagree. If everyone agreed on everything, life would be pretty boring.

Anyone got any fun ideas for an avatar? I need a new one.

A Henry Kissinger photo would be appropriate by the sounds of your post.

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09-11-2015 , 08:54 AM

#3661

Stedge

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 9

Is he banned now?

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09-11-2015 , 12:35 PM

#3662

enzet

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,461

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=144

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09-11-2015 , 12:42 PM

#3663

DarkMattersMan

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09-11-2015 , 02:52 PM

#3664

numberonedonk

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 2,182

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Originally Posted by enzet

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=144

From that thread

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Originally Posted by Stinger88

To those asking questions about how much of an edge you think Brian was gaining, I think it's widely overestimated. That doesn't make multiaccounting right, but the edge gained is pretty miniscule. To use another example, I've played Lars Luzak on probably 5 accounts in the past year. For a session or 2, yes he would gain an edge, but myself and most HS regulars are smart enough to spot when they're playing a familiar opponent. Also, after 100 hands or so I could make a judgment on the opponent's general skill level and decide whether or not it's a good idea to continue, so those who played Brian must have still thought the games were plenty good, it's not like knowing that it's Brian Townsend should really change anything, just whether it's a good regular or not.

Also, Brian only used the accounts in 6 handed PLO games, in which I believe he was a losing player at the time he created the accounts (as was I a year ago or so). He did occasionally play HU at 6 handed tables but would not do so against players who denied him action on his known accounts. Basically what I'm trying to say is edge wasn't his reason for doing this, it's still wrong, but comparing it to seeing hole cards or playing several accounts in the same tourney is ridiculous.

Someone called him out for throwing larsluzak under the bus and this was his reply.

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I was just using him as an example, not trying to rat him out or something, it's pretty universally known, and I don't really care, I was just making a point about playing against multiaccounters being not a big deal. There are several other players who do this (HORSE games are rampant with it) and it's unfair to single out Brian, although like I said, I don't agree with what Brian did or any of these guys do and it's wrong.

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09-15-2015 , 12:12 AM

#3665

vazdog33

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 522

A+ from JRD in the following Twitter exchange with Brian Hastings:

@JRD312
@brianchastings it's a joke Brian. Wether you find it funny or not depends on the vantage point from which you see the joke & sense of humor

‏@brianchastings
@JRD312 when you’ve read the same joke 1000x in 3 months it’s not very funny or enjoyable to see

@JRD312
@brianchastings my bad forgot you were the victim

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09-15-2015 , 12:42 AM

#3666

gausspoker

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 945

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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan

hahahaha

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09-15-2015 , 01:20 AM

#3667

PasswordGotHacked

banned

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,913

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Originally Posted by vazdog33

awwwww i almost feel sorry for poor Brian

(not ****ing really hahaha what a clown)

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09-17-2015 , 03:16 PM

#3668

limon

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Ive been gone for a while, anything interesting happen?

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09-17-2015 , 04:29 PM

#3669

epcfast

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Jeremy Corbyn is the new labour leader

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09-18-2015 , 12:03 AM

#3670

RobFarha

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 9,707

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Originally Posted by limon

Ive been gone for a while, anything interesting happen?

psychopath gonna psychopath imo. might unfollow him on twitter cause it gives me the heevy jeevies

so much entertainment though

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09-18-2015 , 06:57 PM

#3671

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

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Originally Posted by limon

Ive been gone for a while, anything interesting happen?

'Summer of Hastings' became 'Winter of Odlanor' and Brian is jealous he's no longer front page news.

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09-18-2015 , 08:16 PM

#3672

ddlloo12

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 535

Doesnt matter if good regs should be able to figure it out. Recreational players, players taking shots, players without HUDs, etc..

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09-18-2015 , 08:24 PM

#3673

PasswordGotHacked

banned

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,913

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

'Summer of Hastings' became 'Winter of Odlanor' and Brian is jealous he's no longer front page news.

I thought he was angry he didn't think of cheating with Olandor first so he could keep his integrity

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09-19-2015 , 10:44 AM

#3674

prayforsnow8

banned

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 425

Bump. Let's not let this fall off the first page. Can we sticky it?

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09-19-2015 , 01:38 PM

#3675

vinivici9586

Breakfast?

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,679

as a gimmick/troll account connoisseur, brian's attempt right now is getting a (double) D-minus

https://twitter.com/Sheldon*******

Last edited by vinivici9586; 09-19-2015 at 01:39 PM. Reason: it's a$$hole

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