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08-13-2015 , 12:04 PM

#3326

moki

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Ikes are you sure you didn't say anything to Stars? Limon has 100% guaranteed us that Stars knew.

If Limon was correct, Ike would not be on the firing line here. So it's pretty clear that either Limon was wrong that Stars knew, or Ike is lying, and taking a bullet for Stars.

I think the latter is pretty unlikely.

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08-13-2015 , 12:07 PM

#3327

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Originally Posted by vazdog33

Yes, keeping the info to himself (ESPECIALLY in light of being a sponsored pro) to maintain an edge on players not in the know qualifies as sinister imo.

Although there does seem to be a disagreement about what if any edge was gained by Ike.

I think you are being purposely naive by stating not much.

I'm not saying Ike is BH scum here by any stretch. But he acted unethically at the very least. And is a borderline cheat at the very worst. (But again, not BH level of a cheat).

You've deliberately ignored all counterarguments and have instead done nothing but hand wave.

You've intimated that Ike is lying itt. Substantiate that.

You've said multiple times that Ike's intention was to sit on the information he had in order to maintain his nebulous edge (that you're unwilling to define). Instead of accepting what Ike posted at face value - that he took the path of least resistance - you've concluded that Ike was doing something sinister.

Again, substantiate that.

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08-13-2015 , 12:09 PM

#3328

iPlayPLOhigh

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There isn't any room for logic here, this NVG.

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08-13-2015 , 12:12 PM

#3329

hotwarmcold2

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Originally Posted by gregorio

Ike only played part of one SCOOP tournament knowing who Noel/Brian was. Brian didn't tell him he was Noel until they ended up at the same table during the tournament. They did not play together after that.

Yeah, ike had a slight edge for a few hands in a tournament. What do you want him to have done? Quit playing in the middle of the tournament? Got on the red phone direct line to stars security and get them to shut the tourney down until Noel was investigated and DQ'd so the tourney could continue without him having an edge? Opened up a few SnGs to negate his advantage?

this post is similar to the type of mod posts you are questioning in the atf thread. we would have him email pokerstars security the information while continuing to play the tourney. something he could have done anonymously long before the scoop table.

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08-13-2015 , 12:39 PM

#3330

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

The lion was shot by an ignorant American.

And the people of the village cheered as their children would not longer face threat of death when going out for water.

Off-topic, but I know someone well from that part of the world and his first take was that the dentist should be thanked for bringing money to the area while making it safer for people that live there.

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08-13-2015 , 12:40 PM

#3331

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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2

The Great and Mighty Firebreathing hotwarmcold, with multiple 2+2 accounts to fire multiple bullits, down to his last few spitwads.

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08-13-2015 , 12:55 PM

#3332

Jbrochu

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Originally Posted by moki

Exactly.

When will Limon apologize?

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08-13-2015 , 01:03 PM

#3333

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is Limon HWC?

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08-13-2015 , 01:29 PM

#3334

Jbrochu

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

is Limon HWC?

I thought HWC was probably Dan Druff until I realized Limon had disappeared from the thread.

But yeah, most likely it's Limon.

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08-13-2015 , 01:43 PM

#3335

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

is Limon HWC?

Almost certainly. and if Limon is watching, I have news for you buddy. If you're going to multi-account, learn some grammar so that your errors don't betray you.

Or perhaps I should say, "if your going to multi-account, learn some grammar so that you're error's don't betray you." LOL

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08-13-2015 , 01:46 PM

#3336

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Based on that logic, Limon has about 5000 accounts on 2+2.

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08-13-2015 , 01:49 PM

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Limon has been poasting since 2002 here. Hardly doubt he would bother his hole in multi accounting 2+2. Besides, why has the thread diverted from hastings and focused on HWC?
Thats exactly what hastings and Ike, selbst et al want.

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08-13-2015 , 01:50 PM

#3338

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Exactly.

When will Limon apologize?

I can see it being just as (or more) likely that Ike is lying or giving a half-truth to protect PStars as that is the only side with a financial interest in this matter to do so. Stop nut-hugging.*

*How many poker scandals directly or indirectly involving big names and poker sites do you need to see over the last ten years to stop giving any of them the benefit of the doubt?

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08-13-2015 , 01:59 PM

#3339

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

Yet another ridiculous post. Apparently we can no longer give anyone in poker the benefit of the doubt because there have been poker scandals before. It's completely fair to assume Ike is lying because he's a poker player. Great stuff, buddy.

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08-13-2015 , 02:03 PM

#3340

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

Based on that logic, Limon has about 5000 accounts on 2+2.

You really think anyone is saying "Limon is gone and there is a new account here, therefore the new account is Limon"?

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08-13-2015 , 02:05 PM

#3341

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

Yet another ridiculous post. Apparently we can no longer give anyone in poker the benefit of the doubt because there have been poker scandals before. It's completely fair to assume Ike is lying because he's a poker player. Great stuff, buddy.

by his own admission what he confessed to is cheating. check uwantmygame's great post on the matter.

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08-13-2015 , 02:05 PM

#3342

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

You really think anyone is saying "Limon is gone and there is a new account here, therefore the new account is Limon"?

He was talking about the grammar mistake betraying Limon.

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08-13-2015 , 02:09 PM

#3343

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Originally Posted by hotwarmcold2

by his own admission what he confessed to is cheating. check uwantmygame's great post on the matter.

I can't imagine living in your binary world of CHEATER and NOT CHEATER

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08-13-2015 , 02:17 PM

#3344

iPlayPLOhigh

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

I can't imagine living in your binary world of CHEATER and NOT CHEATER

Just stop giving HWC attention. He literally has nothing to add to the conversation besides bashing people. Anytime you respond to his constant repeating of the same thing he wins.

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08-13-2015 , 02:27 PM

#3345

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

You really think anyone is saying "Limon is gone and there is a new account here, therefore the new account is Limon"?

No, most are saying, "Limon is gone, and there is a new account posting with the same grammatical errors, misspellings and relentless passion as limon, therefore the new account is limon."

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08-13-2015 , 02:29 PM

#3346

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

You are obtuse.

My point is not that he is lying because he is a poker player but that the only side that has a financial incentive to lie is the side that Ike and PStars find themselves on ... buddy.

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08-13-2015 , 02:31 PM

#3347

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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes

No, most are saying, "Limon is gone, and there is a new account posting with the same grammatical errors, misspellings and relentless passion as limon, therefore the new account is limon."

And railing on about the same issues Limon had with Pokerstars, 2p2 moderation and the high stakes community.

I'm in agreement - I misunderstood what the original poster was alluding to.

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08-13-2015 , 02:34 PM

#3348

iPlayPLOhigh

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

And railing on about the same issues Limon had with Pokerstars, 2p2 moderation and the high stakes community.

I'm in agreement - I misunderstood what the original poster was alluding to.

Also being clueless to how easy it is to confirm Ike only played X hands with the NH account because he doesn't play online poker.

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08-13-2015 , 02:42 PM

#3349

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

No, that's still ridiculous. You're unwilling to accept his posts at face value because he's associated with PokerStars and must be a liar even though Ike is someone who has had a strong positive reputation in the online poker community for a decade.

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08-13-2015 , 02:55 PM

#3350

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

It's more and more clear that having a strong reputation in the online poker community and being an angle shooter,opportunist,cheat,and having a wonky moral compass are not mutually exclusive.

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