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Old 01-17-2014, 03:38 PM   #26
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

How were those not caught by the dealer the FIRST time one comes in play......men the master FTW
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:41 PM   #27
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

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It is, according to the 62-year poker veteran I got fairly lucky against in a live 1/3 cash game the other night. Flop: AA9 // Turn: 7 // River: A. We have AQ, he has 99, money gets AIOF. I'm not exaggerating in the least when I say he pleaded with the floor for 10 minutes after busting to examine the cards. Hilarious. It's all rigged.
Oh man, it would take everything I had to keep from laughing in this guys face.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:44 PM   #28
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

truth is, in a field this massive with the floor and all staff stretched to the absolute max, it is very difficult to defend against these scumbags. Getting in that many chips is very disturbing however.

Selfishly, I hope this does not put an end to these large field excellent value tournaments.

Also, everyone asking for a refund, get lost. What would you be saying if you were one of the final day players?
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:45 PM   #29
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It is, according to the 62-year poker veteran I got fairly lucky against in a live 1/3 cash game the other night. Flop: AA9 // Turn: 7 // River: A. We have AQ, he has 99, money gets AIOF. I'm not exaggerating in the least when I say he pleaded with the floor for 10 minutes after busting to examine the cards. Hilarious. It's all rigged.
Wish I had a dollar for every time I met someone who was 62ish and said they were a poker veteran.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:48 PM   #30
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This could turn out really bad for borgata. If njgc makes them refund everyone the remaining players have a very big lawsuit. Borgata is about to take a real big bubble bath
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:49 PM   #31
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open



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Old 01-17-2014, 03:52 PM   #32
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Ak grinding video poker while investigation underway.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:52 PM   #33
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

Glad I stayed home to grind on 888 instead. Just saying.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:54 PM   #34
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they are going to have to start the entire tournament over IMO which they can likely do per NJ casino regulations & the fine print that governs every single Borgata tourney

it is not fair to the chip leaders & players who did not cheat but the integrity of the game must be preserved
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:54 PM   #35
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

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It is, according to the 62-year poker veteran I got fairly lucky against in a live 1/3 cash game the other night. Flop: AA9 // Turn: 7 // River: A. We have AQ, he has 99, money gets AIOF. I'm not exaggerating in the least when I say he pleaded with the floor for 10 minutes after busting to examine the cards. Hilarious. It's all rigged.
How much was the pot?
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:54 PM   #36
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Put Detective Chainsaw on the job. He solves all tournament problems.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:54 PM   #37
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Ak grinding video poker while investigation underway.
Im at Choctaw. Pool could reach close to $2m.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:56 PM   #38
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Im at Choctaw. Pool could reach close to $2m.
Can you fly in. Borgata needs your help.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:56 PM   #39
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I've known 5k chips for years. We come in contact once in a while at tournaments. They've been nothing but great to me and I have a hard time believing this is true.

I think we should all calm down until there is a proper investigation before we start slandering such a good denomination chip.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:56 PM   #40
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

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I wonder how frequently fake chips make it to the felt in online tournaments? How annoying. Glad I didn't make the trip I was considering making. Sorry to hear for all those that are affected by it.
Proly no where close to how frequently many onliners using programs to help them figure out all their math for them and definitely nowhere as frequently as the amount of people that collude using IM/Skype/telephone. There isnt any bots live either so thats nice.GTFO

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Obv a large-ish, poss. well funded organization to be able to produce/introduce $1m+ in chips. You cant just make chips in your garage can you? Who has a chip making machine?

Cant wait for these scumbags to be caught. Gotta feeling some recognizable names will be involved.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:59 PM   #41
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

Fwiw in the past ive been in this tourney and had totally different color looking chips like in the pic. And someone mentioned they received those exact looking chips from the TD when re entering. So the obvious difference in the chips in that picture likely are not the ones that are the issue here
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:59 PM   #42
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Chips are supposedly off by +1.09 Mil (per players tweet) so obv a crew of scammers, this is sickening.
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This is really not that surprising when you consider the number of cheating scams that have occurred and the gentle "slap on the wrist" punishments that have been meted out to the guilty perpetrators.

I received an "Emergency Email" this morning from the PPA extolling me to contact my state Attorney General to voice my concern over some anti online poker proclamation that our AG is considering signing. The PPA was emphatic in insisting that I should "stand up for poker" and let my voice be heard. They insisted, in the email, that "legal and regulated poker has worked just fine - as demonstrated by the regulated brick and mortar casinos." My question to the PPA is as follows: Where in the hell was the PPA while all this cheating and scamming was occurring on the internet sites? Answer: They had their hand out taking money from those same sites!

As long as the PPA (and the AGA) sit back and don't say (or do) a damn thing about all this cheating and corruption in poker, I won't lift a finger (or send a single email) in support of my "right" to play internet poker. I'm of the attitude that as long as these cheating dirt bag poker players continue to be treated with kid gloves (because it would be "embarrassing" to crack down on them) then we don't really need internet poker (or any other kind of poker) here in the United States. I would rather have no games at all in lieu of games filled with cheats and scammers - and casino operators who are loath to clean the mess up.

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Old 01-17-2014, 04:02 PM   #43
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I've known 5k chips for years. We come in contact once in a while at tournaments. They've been nothing but great to me and I have a hard time believing this is true.

I think we should all calm down until there is a proper investigation before we start slandering such a good denomination chip.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:03 PM   #44
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Proly no where close to how frequently many onliners using programs to help them figure out all their math for them and definitely nowhere as frequently as the amount of people that collude using IM/Skype/telephone. There isnt any bots live either so thats nice.GTFO

Anyway

Obv a large-ish, poss. well funded organization to be able to produce/introduce $1m+ in chips. You cant just make chips in your garage can you? Who has a chip making machine?

Cant wait for these scumbags to be caught. Gotta feeling some recognizable names will be involved.
On the contrary chips can be counterfeited. With the technology available today anything can be duplicated. The casinos have to use RFID in all large denomination chips so they can tracked. This can prevent fake chips as each one
has a unique serial number so the casino can be aware of every chip in it's inventory.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:04 PM   #45
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

If bet it was Sheldon Adelsons minions trying to tarnish the name of the most successful regulated online poker room in the country.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:05 PM   #46
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Also, everyone asking for a refund, get lost. What would you be saying if you were one of the final day players?
Ya, what are the chances that one of the people with $2mil in fake chips made the final table? Too funny
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:05 PM   #47
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I've known 5k chips for years. We come in contact once in a while at tournaments. They've been nothing but great to me and I have a hard time believing this is true.

I think we should all calm down until there is a proper investigation before we start slandering such a good denomination chip.
That's sexist!
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:05 PM   #48
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Anyone know the approximate value of all chips in play?
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:09 PM   #49
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I've known 5k chips for years. We come in contact once in a while at tournaments. They've been nothing but great to me and I have a hard time believing this is true.

I think we should all calm down until there is a proper investigation before we start slandering such a good denomination chip.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:09 PM   #50
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Re: Borgata Floor Finds Tons of Counterfeit 5k Chips in Event 1 Winter Poker Open

There should be some evidence on video, but it could take a very long time to review and identify it.

Followed immediately by accelerated rehabilitation.
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