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12-06-2011 , 01:56 AM
OOPS....

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Originally Posted by JustinR
So for those saying that someone is going to somehow hack in and get player identities because it supposedly happened on Party its not possible unless you somehow got the information directly from the Bodog server.

This is the issue with only doing some anonymous tables, in that way your program runs a certain way and some packets of information may be diverted for anon tables. Bodog NEVER sends this information to the tables, there is NOTHING to intercept. That information stays on their server side for reporting and security. XaQ is correct.
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Originally Posted by Bodog Response Email
Regarding your concern with our software being viewed in 2+2 and that account numbers are visible, we are aware that account numbers can be viewed in the back end of the software as they exist so that we can still monitor the activity of our players for security and reporting purposes.
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12-06-2011 , 02:12 AM
I posted this in bd support thread but Im posting here and anyone who haz problem can GFT

Wow class act Bodog, banning the account that pointed out serious security flaws in new software update that every single player on the site is affected by.

Something is wrong with this. Almost indescribable how poorly bodog has handled this so far.

I mean deny, deny, deny at first. Then no comment after serious flaw is discovered. Then banning the account who actually (whether you see it or not bodog) helped the obviously overburdened IT team at bodog, see a huge security vulnerability.

Even the most casual clueless rec player thinks something fishy is going on. Who are you kidding bodog?
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12-06-2011 , 02:59 AM
I found it hilarious to click on every single facebook post by bodog only to see Ronnie commenting by posting the kyleb de-anonymizing video. Kyleb = Ronnie? Anyway nice work!
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12-06-2011 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ShipItMehr
I found it hilarious to click on every single facebook post by bodog only to see Ronnie commenting by posting the kyleb de-anonymizing video. Kyleb = Ronnie? Anyway nice work!
Nah, I don't hide my identity. Hence KyleB.
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12-06-2011 , 03:02 AM
either nix poker or put it back to the way it was. these anon tbls dont do any good for anybody.
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12-06-2011 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GoDeViLs
I posted this in bd support thread but Im posting here and anyone who haz problem can GFT

Wow class act Bodog, banning the account that pointed out serious security flaws in new software update that every single player on the site is affected by.

Something is wrong with this. Almost indescribable how poorly bodog has handled this so far.

I mean deny, deny, deny at first. Then no comment after serious flaw is discovered. Then banning the account who actually (whether you see it or not bodog) helped the obviously overburdened IT team at bodog, see a huge security vulnerability.

Even the most casual clueless rec player thinks something fishy is going on. Who are you kidding bodog?
qft... bodog's old managment was amazing, ever since calvin ayre stepped down and handed it over to mohawk, it's just gone straight downhill.
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12-06-2011 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by boohaa12
Once this thread picks up 20,000 views and a few hundred posts im sure bodog will change their tune. The bodog email is Absurd!
Of course they will. And the Cubs have a shot next year. BoDog has showed, repeatedly, they care nothing for the 2+2 players views.
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12-06-2011 , 05:19 AM
Bodog was the first site I grinded on, back in 2004.

I like the reasoning behind the effort at making the players anonymous, although I do not like the fact aspects of it also make uncovering fraud and collusion more difficult at the same time.

Anyway, just wanted to say I appreciate all the work KyleB is doing...thanks, man. As for Bodog.....it's shameful they banned kyleb's demo account and their response thus far has been inadequate and insulting.
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12-06-2011 , 06:58 AM
bodog fail misserably.
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12-06-2011 , 07:39 AM
EPIC BEAT FOR BODOG
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12-06-2011 , 07:41 AM
wow nice work kyleb. Bodog looks terrible here.
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12-06-2011 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mooseknuckle
response from Bodog.....

Thank you for contacting Bodog Poker Customer Service.



It's very understandable if our players are very concerned about the security of their accounts because of this video that has been posted on the internet but we are assuring all of our players that all your account information is secured. We are aware of this video and we are investigating looking into this.



Regarding your concern with our software being viewed in 2+2 and that account numbers are visible, we are aware that account numbers can be viewed in the back end of the software as they exist so that we can still monitor the activity of our players for security and reporting purposes. In a future phase of improvements, we will likely remove these numbers so that they can only be viewed internally and not externally using the software you're inquiring about.



As per the anonymity of our Poker tables, for the vast majority of our players, they will not know who they are playing against as they can't see a screen name or account number while at the tables; however,

if someone wants to and has the technical skills to develop the software you saw on the forum they are able to - we are confident this will only be pursued in very isolated cases between now and a future upgrade which will prevent it from working.


Thank you very much for writing. Should you have any questions, or require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.


Regards,



Poker Customer Service

[email protected]
1-866-909-ACES (2237)


Sick life....

Translation:


"We here at Bodog pay third world software developers to create the client software you use to connect to our poker server. Because we pay the minimum amount of cash we can get away with for our infrastructure, no thought ever occurs to do things like code reviews, analysis of the security of the function calls available to the client, and we CERTAINLY can't believe people would actually take the five minutes it would take to run our client software through a debugger and look at all the interesting things stored in system memory! Like the supposed anonymous user IDs! We just assumed if we don't actually DISPLAY it on the screen, it's like magic! You can't see me!

We certainly hope that guy that exposed the UB client god mode code from a few years ago doesn't decide to look and see what ELSE might be lurking around in system memory while the game client is running! Pesky software quality assurance people. If you weren't so darned stubborn about being paid a living wage maybe we'd actually hire folks like you to flush out these little bug...err, FEATURES before we ship our product!"
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12-06-2011 , 08:22 AM
^ this +10000. Poker rooms ARE cutting the corners when it comes to software development.. anyone with any sort of experience in software/web development can see this out of EVERY site, except Pokerstars... of course.
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12-06-2011 , 08:26 AM
I assume Bodog were given notice about this flaw and given a chance to fix it, it would be unethical not to, also it doesn't make using Bodog any less secure than say..Pokerstars since your account login there is publicly visible. Indeed Bodog is probably a bit more secure because you need a tool to extract the login names and arn't easily harvested for brute force attempts, which Pokerstars logins are courtesy of the numerous player trackers out there.
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12-06-2011 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Stake Monster
except Pokerstars... of course.
for now...
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12-06-2011 , 08:39 AM
I wonder how exclusive that PartyCrasher app is right now. Could be worth a lot to certain people obviously.

It seems like FTP and Stars and possibly Merge Gaming are among the few sites that have been pretty much immune from software exploits. I think IPoker has a secure reputation but it's known for being infested with bots. UB/AP alone had the superuser accounts and then had another scandal regarding their crap encryption technique. You get what you pay for I suppose.

Last edited by AKingdom; 12-06-2011 at 08:44 AM.
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12-06-2011 , 09:13 AM
thanks for the video kyleb.

it just gets worse by the day.
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12-06-2011 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
I wonder how exclusive that PartyCrasher app is right now. Could be worth a lot to certain people obviously.
Right now its very exclusive as it only exists on one computer on our network :-)
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12-06-2011 , 10:30 AM
good job kyle, will be interesting to see where Bodog goes from here over the next few days
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12-06-2011 , 10:37 AM
Bodog will continue to ignore the problem as they have said in a few emails they are aware of the problem and that our money is still "safe and secure" and that it may be fixed in a future update. No Bodog rep of this forum has made a statement in the last few days though
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12-06-2011 , 11:14 AM
Bodog commented on my the link I posted on their wall containing the video saying everything was inaccurate in the video lol
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12-06-2011 , 11:39 AM
Scandal... what else is knew in the poker world. The next video should be on it's way soon, just wait. Basically Bodog new software is an utter dissapointment an us as poker players in our innate way are looking for an out to get even, the fact the OP in the video was soon banned after releasing the above video speaks volumes .The last thing Bodog wants is for the DOJ to come for them and up becoming the next full tilt They(bodog) want to keep this issue hush hush, and it's probably better for their public and legal relations to do due so.... in closing of course they are going to say " your video is inaccurate" rather than your video is accurate let me get this to my superior....it's a game and they are value betting every player on there site...

Last edited by justanotherkid; 12-06-2011 at 11:47 AM.
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12-06-2011 , 11:59 AM
Bodog should have just let us change our screen name every so often instead of this anon table garbage. Its unreal how they made just about everything about their software worse.
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12-06-2011 , 12:16 PM
I remember the first time i tried to deposit on bodog in like 07. They snap accused me of credit card fraud and banned me I was like wtf? I have a debit card. It made no sense so I just went with another site lol.
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12-06-2011 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
good job kyle, will be interesting to see where Bodog goes from here over the next few days
Apparently what Bodog will do is post on their Facebook that the video isn't accurate and avoid the forums...according to the Support thread
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