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09-21-2012 , 01:07 AM

#226

isbovadascam

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1

I hate that the players are anonymous!
How can you ever figure out if players are colluding? If you see the 2 screen names playing tables together you can figure out a pattern how they play. But, being anonymous, how do you ever know??

Secondly, I notice some players making god awful plays, but keep raking in pots. I want to check their stats or be able to follow them to see if their long run losers. Knowing I can't do this it always makes me wonder if some of these awful players aren't have short term luck, but actually figured someway to know what the flop, turn, river will bring..

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09-21-2012 , 01:57 AM

#227

hehateme315

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,039

[QUOTE=isbovadascam;34922733]I hate that the players are anonymous!
How can you ever figure out if players are colluding? If you see the 2 screen names playing tables together you can figure out a pattern how they play. But, being anonymous, how do you ever know??

Secondly, I notice some players making god awful plays, but keep raking in pots. I want to check their stats or be able to follow them to see if their long run losers. Knowing I can't do this it always makes me wonder if some of these awful players aren't have short term luck, but actually figured someway to know what the flop, turn, river will bring..[/QUOTE]

solid post, DOUBTFUL tho bra

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12-06-2012 , 06:11 PM

#228

EminentFate

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 677

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Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice

Post 205 in this thread. Yes, this was an issue after the switch to the anonymous tables, but it was fixed a few days after this issue was discovered.

Bodog_Ice
What if any security software to you in place to protect players from collusion? Example same player I.D.s who sit at the same tables at high frequencies most likely, though not limited to 6max cash, and 6 max SnG’s.

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12-15-2012 , 08:39 PM

#229

YoungOlehead

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 349

The fact that Bodog has done this is bad for the game and absolutely atrocious! I thought their players wouldve been so outraged, they wouldve changed it within weeks. How does this not endanger every player on the site? And in what way does this improve the game? The games are small enough to where anyone can get action...The only people who benefit from this are the colluders and bot operators. Is there a petition thread against their anonymous tables? If not Im about to start one.

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12-15-2012 , 09:09 PM

#230

onemoretimes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,540

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Originally Posted by YoungOlehead

Don't bother. Obv the players didn't like it, but Bodog doesn't care. From an objective business standpoint, I can kind of see why Bodog did what they did, and only they know if they are making more money now.

Just don't play there. Ez game.

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12-16-2012 , 03:07 AM

#231

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,417

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Originally Posted by YoungOlehead

Of all the petitions I've seen (some of them have been quite ridiculous), this one would be the biggest waste of time of all of them. You're a year too late, and even then I doubt it would've made a lick of difference. Tonnes of 2+2ers were outraged then, and it didn't bother Bodog one bit. They've made it quite clear that they're marketing to casual players and feel this was something they could do to give them some protection. It wouldn't surprise me if all the negative reaction they got only made them feel even stronger that they were doing the right thing.

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12-16-2012 , 03:46 PM

#232

Jimmy DaMoney

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 50

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Originally Posted by YoungOlehead

The only people who benefit from this are the colluders and bot operators.

I disagree. I play simple one , two table at a time and don't use any software and rarely visit websites to get information on my opponents. I develop player reads while I'm playing each individual session.

I like knowing that I'm not potentially losing my edge to players with hud's and other software arsenal.

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12-17-2012 , 01:55 AM

#233

bpb

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,380

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Originally Posted by Jimmy DaMoney

Same here. That prior comment was pretty ignorant.

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12-17-2012 , 02:52 AM

#234

RonMexico

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,323

LOL software arsenal. Yeah, trade in that imagined disadvantage for a very real one against bots and teams.

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12-17-2012 , 04:13 AM

#235

Gioco

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,421

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Originally Posted by Jimmy DaMoney

On the internet, I consider myself a casual, social player. I have experienced a substantially improved win rate at anonymous tables. I'm not sure if it is because the HUD users are absent or because they aren't able to play as well without the information they grew accustomed to having. My win rate indicates I don't have a problem from bots or collusive playing teams.

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12-17-2012 , 06:11 AM

#236

RonMexico

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,323

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Originally Posted by Gioco

What stakes? Post your stats.

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12-17-2012 , 12:59 PM

#237

royalty_16

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 24

For the record, many people still use HUDs on Bovada. You can't use historical information so all HUD tracking is done per session only, but the information is still useful after x num of hands.

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12-17-2012 , 03:21 PM

#238

bpb

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,380

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Originally Posted by RonMexico

LOL software arsenal. Yeah, trade in that imagined disadvantage for a very real one against bots and teams.

So HUD's provide no advantage to the players that use them?

The stupidity level keeps rising in here ...

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12-17-2012 , 04:53 PM

#239

Hey Now

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11

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Originally Posted by royalty_16

For the record, many people still use HUDs on Bovada. You can't use historical information so all HUD tracking is done per session only, but the information is still useful after x num of hands.

What program or software are these players using?

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12-17-2012 , 08:00 PM

#240

RonMexico

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,323

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Originally Posted by bpb

So HUD's provide no advantage to the players that use them?

The stupidity level keeps rising in here ...

How much of an advantage do you think they provide? Enough to warrant opening the game up to botting and cheating so that it's not policeable by the community?