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05-16-2012 , 12:12 AM
I have to agree, China is certainly hanging his reputation out there. Is there anyone here who will confirm they've made that even money bet with him?

(I know, I know, someone will tell me how he has no reputation...there, I said it for you.)

Hope you're right, China.
05-16-2012 , 12:14 AM
Yeah, what a joke!

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Originally Posted by Gankstar
I have to agree, China is certainly hanging his reputation out there. Is there anyone here who will confirm they've made that even money bet with him?

(I know, I know, someone will tell me how he has no reputation...there, I said it for you.)

Hope you're right, China.
I don't really think that he has one, after all of the false statements he's been making about his "source".

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-16-2012 at 12:06 PM.
05-16-2012 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gankstar
I have to agree, China is certainly hanging his reputation out there. Is there anyone here who will confirm they've made that even money bet with him?

(I know, I know, someone will tell me how he has no reputation...there, I said it for you.)

Hope you're right, China.
I think hanging your reputation out there requires you have anything but a reputation for nonsense....
05-16-2012 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
I don't really think that he has one, after all of the false statements he's been making about his "source".
I'm not disagreeing...I'd like to confirm he in fact has gotten action on that bet he's offering. That would at least confirm he isn't completely full of ****. That being said, I don't care if he has no rep or credibility because of past BS...even a broken clock is right twice a day. Hence, I hope he's right this time, whether it's coincidence, really based on a solid source, or because he is getting messages from aliens.

If he isn't right I'm making fun of him FO' LIFE! (Hell, I'll even give it to the first of the month before I totally look at him like a nutter.)
05-16-2012 , 12:22 AM
damnit.

We are so starved for facts that we now have to turn to the maligned chinamaniac for information. Who has taken a complete beating in both FTP threads, literally since the inception of this matter.

What have we come to??

I certainly hope china is right, and it would be a poetic and fitting end that it is him, and not someone else who delivers the big news.
05-16-2012 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
damnit.

We are so starved for facts that we now have to turn to the maligned chinamaniac for information. Who has taken a complete beating in both FTP threads, literally since the inception of this matter.

What have we come to??

I certainly hope china is right, and it would be a poetic and fitting end that it is him, and not someone else who delivers the big news.
We're all like crackheads...on our hands and knees looking through the carpet for crumbs of a stone that may or may not exist...lol.
05-16-2012 , 12:28 AM
I think that he should give us some background on his source....? Just saying how close he is to the deal that's trying to get done... or if his source is getting the info from another source or what? This is just a never ending soap opera.
05-16-2012 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
Why say that? China has a solid source that says things will be resolved on Sept 19th, 2011. Err I mean "this week". Err, I mean he's 100% that it will be resolved this week. I mean, 99.9% that it's either this week or next week.

How can we not believe that? lol
Oops sorry, it was October 14th, 2011. Got the date wrong:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=8655

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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
I think that he should give us some background on his source....? Just saying how close he is to the deal that's trying to get done... or if his source is getting the info from another source or what? This is just a never ending soap opera.
Last fall he said his source was Scott Matusow, and he was posting all over how there would be solid news on 10/14/11. I verified with Scott himself that he wasn't talking to anyone on 2+2 and that he didn't have any inside knowledge on the FTP situation. I pointed this out to Chinamaniac and he insisted on being right. When 10/14/11 came and went he basically vanished for a while. He's been back a few times in the main FTP containment thread with this source and that source and he's never been anywhere close to right with anything.

Bottom line is that anyone who believes him is an idiot. He's not reliable. He has no sources that are reliable. He's just an idiot.

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-16-2012 at 12:06 PM.
05-16-2012 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
It is possible but not confirmed that you may be able to login to your FTP account if you are a U.S. player and withdraw like you did with Pokerstars after Black Friday.

Alternatively you may have to file with D.O.J. This is something that is still being talked about and could go either way at this point.
Considering that those are the only two options if we eventually get paid back, I think he's on point here!
05-16-2012 , 12:31 AM
Man, I hope taht we are all wrong with how much s*** we are giving him... man.... if he's wrong he's ggonna get it from all angles... def gonna say something about having situation as his avatar.
05-16-2012 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Man, I hope taht we are all wrong with how much s*** we are giving him... man.... if he's wrong he's ggonna get it from all angles... def gonna say something about having situation as his avatar.
The thing is, there could be an announcement this week and it means absolutely nothing as far as chinamaniac and his imaginary source. People have been saying "next week" for a year now. He can't just keep saying it and expect to be praised when he finally gets it right.
05-16-2012 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
1. If the D.O.J. is put in charge of payouts and players have to file a claim they would most likely reap millions in unclaimed balances for people who have minimal amounts of money in their accounts and don't file claims. And then you have a large portion of people that most likely wouldn't even know they could reclaim their balances. I don't know if the DOJ looks at it this way but in the pure form of business they would stand to make millions more this way.

2. Pokerstars/FTP handles the payouts and sets up a processor and the DOJ wipes their hands clean and walks away and they can move on to other business.

I havent heard how they are going to payout player points and bonuses etc.

I haven't heard how they will handle people who owe echecks. I suspect if you have a positive balance it will be deducted from your account but that is just a guess at this point.

What I do know is 99.9 % their will be an announcement coming this week or early next week. The announcement will be that Pokerstars has officially purchased FTP but could contain the answers to the questions people have been asking over and over
Really hope they turn them into cash.

Was saving for the big black card bonus, was so close too .
05-16-2012 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gankstar
Hope you're right, China.
99.9 % I am correct. My source is legit this time. If I am wrong on this I will never post any insider info ever again.

Anyone who believed what "scott" told me needs to be re-evaluated.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_NXN-Dukc
05-16-2012 , 12:42 AM
he doesnt sound dumb ....and what does he have to profit by making all this stuff up? im on my way to being one of the best poker players in the world and my intuition is normally right...all the evidence I've gathered leads me to believe that its going to happen...actually i'd say about 90% of me believes it will!
05-16-2012 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
The thing is, there could be an announcement this week and it means absolutely nothing as far as chinamaniac and his imaginary source. .
I already said I would appoint someone very reputable to confirm my source this time. Only person I would trust with that is Todd "Dan Druff" Wittelles

I could ask him to tweet or post on his forum he has confirmed my source is indeed SUPER legit.

He can't post here because he is banned for disputes with Mason and David
05-16-2012 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
99.9 % I am correct. My source is legit this time. If I am wrong on this I will never post any insider info ever again.

Anyone who believed what "scott" told me needs to be re-evaluated.
05-16-2012 , 12:56 AM
LOL
05-16-2012 , 01:01 AM
I feel like such a sucker for believing China here...
05-16-2012 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ShipItYo
I feel like such a sucker for believing China here...
LOL your location is so perfect.
05-16-2012 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
I already said I would appoint someone very reputable to confirm my source this time. Only person I would trust with that is Todd "Dan Druff" Wittelles

I could ask him to tweet or post on his forum he has confirmed my source is indeed SUPER legit.

He can't post here because he is banned for disputes with Mason and David
I think I actually believe you this time China.
Well I believe that "you" believe you which is encouraging.

but.....
Spoiler:
Dan Druff is still a whiny nerd
05-16-2012 , 01:06 AM
He's really good at trying to get people to believe him....I think it's just taht false hope we all want to believe in that something will FINALLY happen....
05-16-2012 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ShipItYo
I feel like such a sucker for believing China here...
You're not alone
05-16-2012 , 01:07 AM
It's funny when you see lots of people clamoring over something someone said but have them on ignore.
05-16-2012 , 01:24 AM
I mean, I do feel like a huge sucker believing China after the whole scott matusow incidents.

However, he seems much more confident about his claims this time. When someone says "I'm 99% sure "this" will happen on "this" date", he must know that is a pretty ballsy claim... especially given the current mental and emotional state of most people involved in this. Needless to say, I think China knows that if he is wrong with this, that his opinion on anything will be basically laughed at. I think the fact that China knows how big his claim is, makes it a bit more believable to me.

oh well, I guess we'll see soon. China, for your sake, my sake, and everyone else involved in this sake... I hope you're right
05-16-2012 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
If I am wrong on this I will never post any insider info ever again.
Fixed

      
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