Yeah I've been a lurker for a long time (and i'm sure after posting I'll be flamed and told to stay that way) but this is really one of the more haterific, miserable threads I've read.

I went back and read some of "villians" blog and I don't find anything in there to make him seem disingenuous,deceitful or deluded. Actually even the blog post in question if you really think about it, and he's just some ego maniacal deluded storyteller why would he even mention wanting a stake in the blog, probably something he'd keep on the DL right?

Wasn't Bluescouse the original Isildur1 on Betfair? E.g., at random: http://88percent.blogspot.com/2008/0...es-action.html

It's not just me then? I thought I was losing it for a moment there...

I know right? Wtf is with this particular thread besides epic jealousy?

ha jimm, I knew you'd bring him up - I suppose he was. However, I suggest dubai does a well though or at least share some stories (may be he is the original EM2?)..I just posted and played fairly high on Betfair a few years ago so heard some stories..This thread is getting ridiculous so I thought I'd change the subject..

What evidence do you want though

He's offered 25k. This is no good as he is /can be making it all up

What would be proof ?

interesting irony on page 1: how does ben grundy NOT have money and how does riverboatking have any? nobody really knows

http://omahapokerset.com/omaha-poker-history.html

There isnt even that much high stakes action on eurosites?

Havent seen

People who aspire to greatness don't go on endless debate on the internet in NVG defending themselves. That could be counter productive. Do you ever see durrrr or Ivey defending themselves against gay and black rumors? They don't because idiots talk as that's all they know. DUCY you're not a legend now jungleman? You'll lose the durrrr challenge because you're playing a legend who'll come through in the clutch while you wonder why BG is not defending himself in NVG repeatedly.

I remember townsend saying in an interview a couple of years back that benyamine doesnt make much adjustments to his range by position so in theory he shouldn't crush

having one's integrity questioned is on a wayyy different level than having one's skill level, or many different other things questioned. Ben Grundy's integrity is called into question here, and it's no longer rumor status

no comment at everything else, and that's being nice

The guys who are questioning it have no credibility or not offering anything more than "it looks suspicious". BG is innocent until proven otherwise. So why should he be wasting his time?

If for example, I say, jungleman your sudden raise looks suspicious. It must be because you're just like nionio, seeing others cards. Then the burden is on me to show the proof, not you. Otherwise, anyone can just make accusations and sit back.

KB taking pole position ITT IMO....Jungleman you'll probably grow up some, hopefully remain wealthy and wish you hadn't made these posts which should be beneath you IMO

What do you mean it's no longer rumor status? Okay please submit the evidence that will obviously show his lack of integrity and dishonesty: forthcoming right?

KB24 you are a huge idiot, Jungleman not sure why you felt the need to respond to him it's definitely not needed and everyone can see how ******ed his post was.

Also I love how in every thread Daliman is active in, he will eventually make a post that exposes him as a massive spaz, no matter how smart he tries to sound.

Right, lol. I'm sure you of all people would be an expert on this too.

i kind of agree with you on the whole, and agree with you if it's the case that everyone is saying only "it looks suspicious," but they are saying a little more than that, some being reputable (eg daliman). I'm not particular on condemning grundy or anything (in spite of him being somewhat douchey to me, in fact a detail that I think is slightly suspicious), but this topic is driving his reputable perception pretty far down, even if only unofficially and subconsciously in the minds of those that read it. This is something worth defending, no?

really i have no idea how you are suggesting i'm out of line

it's not proven yes, but rumors are rumors because they are under the radar. this isnt at all lol

Jungleman,

You can win 200 billion dollars, 3 trillion dollars, you can win noble prize in physics, you can be a cowboy taking care of cows, you can be an absolute loser, you can be an ant, dog. it doesn't matter. in the end, you'll die and in a few years no one will care. you'll just get that 6 feet where bugs will feed on you. they dont care if you're einstein or a janetor. your time on this earth is very limited.

BG's too. Maybe he doesn't care because he knows he did nothing wrong and wants to spend what little time he has on better things? It's all relative. What is worth defending to you can mean nothing to someone else.

in your blog you said positive thoughts lead to more positive thoughts and negative thoughts work the same way. what does BG gain by engaging in something very negative when he knows deep down he did nothing wrong? Winning an argument over NVG+Daliman is worth it?

I mean im geniunely curious how ben grundy is suppose to prove his graphs are real. I tried getting old hands from bodog today (from 3 years ago) and it was impossible. How is Ben Grundy suppose to prove his hands are real? Its not like the old pokersites he played at are going to have those hands ready to go.

And Jungleman you play high stakes HU PLO, you know how stupid soft it is. How hard is it to pull a kaintd77 and only play really big whales at 25/50 and 50/100 and get a 15-20ptbb/100 winrate? Assuming your an excellent HU PLO player, which im sure Ben Grundy is, its plenty doable.

this argument might have worked 30 years ago but in today's world the very wealthy could possibly live forever due to medical advancements. Human gene therapy/life extension is something im researching quite a bit of.

those bolded words mean the argument still works. maybe it wont in 30 or 300 yrs when they actually find something.

Lol, what in the world? How disingenuous on top of everything else! How much of his blog have you actually read?

this thread is a train wreck. why the hell do people care THIS much, my god, this crap is getting old.

The guy swore on every member of his family for GOD's sake, not only is his graph absolutely faked but this little cold hearted monster hates and could care less about his family as well...wow