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Account robbed of 500k USD and GGpoker security doesn’t care! Account robbed of 500k USD and GGpoker security doesn’t care!

08-29-2023 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Arxontas
I use to have a gg agent account and can confirm that they have access to player funds and can transfer them to their own account.
This is very bad, funds getting stolen by agents will become commonplace then, if they aren’t already. If the system can be exploited, it will be exploited.
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08-29-2023 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
i dont know if its different in other countries but where i live crypto has never been a method for deposting/withdrawing on GG

But yea i actually have heard of crypto before, believe it or not
Crypto deposits/withdrawals isn't available in the UK either, im guessing any site with its own domain that has regulation crypto wont be a option. Its 100% a option everywhere else though how else would they have grown to be so huge in such a short timeframe.
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08-29-2023 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
i dont know if its different in other countries but where i live crypto has never been a method for deposting/withdrawing on GG

But yea i actually have heard of crypto before, believe it or not
Ah ok sorry thought its available everywhere. Netherlands is a regulated market, thats probably why u dont have that option.
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08-30-2023 , 03:46 PM
Man some of you guys are brutal. This is clearly a massive L and GG should atleast be doing what they can to salvage as much out of the affiliates account if he just transferred it to his admin account. Possibly able to file criminal charges if this was done in a regulated market. While yes 500k seems like overkill just bc he said mid/high stakes doesnt mean he couldnt be firing pretty huge on there and is just trying to stay somewhat humble by adding the 'mid' part. Its well within reason to swing 100k+ a sesh on there not playing their nosebleeds. Think we all shouldnt be piling on the guy so hard and making fun of him. I know its cool nowadays to hate everyone with money and some form of success but knowing how hard 9/10 of y'all would be raging if you had even 1k scammed from you its pretty whack to have zero compassion for this guy who is out half a m.
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08-30-2023 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Standard Station
Man some of you guys are brutal. This is clearly a massive L and GG should atleast be doing what they can to salvage as much out of the affiliates account if he just transferred it to his admin account. Possibly able to file criminal charges if this was done in a regulated market. While yes 500k seems like overkill just bc he said mid/high stakes doesnt mean he couldnt be firing pretty huge on there and is just trying to stay somewhat humble by adding the 'mid' part. Its well within reason to swing 100k+ a sesh on there not playing their nosebleeds. Think we all shouldnt be piling on the guy so hard and making fun of him. I know its cool nowadays to hate everyone with money and some form of success but knowing how hard 9/10 of y'all would be raging if you had even 1k scammed from you its pretty whack to have zero compassion for this guy who is out half a m.
You are right. I'm sure myself and some others with wiseass comments pretty much have no clue how GG and agents work. Personally, when I saw the OP first message being his first post ever and saw the $500k, it looked like his agent who had access to his account emptied it and I equated that to trusting someone he shouldn't have for a huge amount of money. My reaction was similar to what it would have been if someone loaned $500k to someone and got stiffed then was looking for someone else to blame (GG poker is this case) instead of tracking down the person who stole his money himself. Throw in the fact he then kind of said so I just had to post up with a different affiliate! Pretty matter of fact about that, hence a wise crack.

Being in the hospital sucks on it's own. Having $500k stolen while in hospital is even worse. Obviously it's a serious situation. If it was some kind of loophole it was reasonable that a player wouldn't know the agent had access to their balance, GG poker should help and I'd be pissed at them too. But if it's known that agents can access their balance the OP put his trust in the wrong person and needs to go after the agent. Does GG have any kind of relationship with "agents" other then them basically being an affiliate or referred to their site?
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08-30-2023 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
You are right. I'm sure myself and some others with wiseass comments pretty much have no clue how GG and agents work. Personally, when I saw the OP first message being his first post ever and saw the $500k, it looked like his agent who had access to his account emptied it and I equated that to trusting someone he shouldn't have for a huge amount of money. My reaction was similar to what it would have been if someone loaned $500k to someone and got stiffed then was looking for someone else to blame (GG poker is this case) instead of tracking down the person who stole his money himself. Throw in the fact he then kind of said so I just had to post up with a different affiliate! Pretty matter of fact about that, hence a wise crack.

Being in the hospital sucks on it's own. Having $500k stolen while in hospital is even worse. Obviously it's a serious situation. If it was some kind of loophole it was reasonable that a player wouldn't know the agent had access to their balance, GG poker should help and I'd be pissed at them too. But if it's known that agents can access their balance the OP put his trust in the wrong person and needs to go after the agent. Does GG have any kind of relationship with "agents" other then them basically being an affiliate or referred to their site?
There’s literally no reason for anyone to have admin access to your account just because you used their referral code. That is an unbelievably bad security failure on GG’s part. Just think if every time you used someone’s code to buy a product and get 10% off they get full access to all of your personal info and credit card number. That would be absurd.
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08-30-2023 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
There’s literally no reason for anyone to have admin access to your account just because you used their referral code. That is an unbelievably bad security failure on GG’s part. Just think if every time you used someone’s code to buy a product and get 10% off they get full access to all of your personal info and credit card number. That would be absurd.
It does strain credulity
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08-30-2023 , 09:39 PM
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08-30-2023 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
lol you nvg folks are such geniuses. in the thread about mamacita everyone was up in arms calling her a **** and a scammer. now we’re playing to for laughs? it’s so hilarious what you guys will pick and choose to be mad at.
Some people took it seriously but of course there were several monkeys dancing around trying to one up each other with the funnys

But to fair, I hated the title. Of course they care but if the money is gone there’s basically nothing they can do. That point should be obvious.
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08-30-2023 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Standard Station
Man some of you guys are brutal. This is clearly a massive L and GG should atleast be doing what they can to salvage as much out of the affiliates account if he just transferred it to his admin account. Possibly able to file criminal charges if this was done in a regulated market. While yes 500k seems like overkill just bc he said mid/high stakes doesnt mean he couldnt be firing pretty huge on there and is just trying to stay somewhat humble by adding the 'mid' part. Its well within reason to swing 100k+ a sesh on there not playing their nosebleeds. Think we all shouldnt be piling on the guy so hard and making fun of him. I know its cool nowadays to hate everyone with money and some form of success but knowing how hard 9/10 of y'all would be raging if you had even 1k scammed from you its pretty whack to have zero compassion for this guy who is out half a m.
To be fair to GG, I would assume they quickly checked the affiliate’s account and were prepared to freeze but it was probably empty. After you rob a bank you exit and leave in get away car.

At that point GG really doesn’t have a lot of options. Giving back OP money is not even something they should consider doing. It would be a super easy scam. One would think a few high stakes players could figure that out.

So nothing they can do in this case other than saying they are not liable.

Last edited by ScotchOnDaRocks; 08-30-2023 at 10:19 PM.
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08-30-2023 , 10:21 PM
I find it rather sad that OP blames GG rather than the actual thief and thinks that someone other than the actual thief should just hand him 500K because he claims it was stolen. GG says; correctly in my opinion, that we will not give you money just because you claim you did not give your agent/know your agent had the ability to take the money. Sue them or try to get them arrested and your money returned. In this case I believe OP was indeed robbed but if GG pays the precedent will be a very expensive error.
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08-30-2023 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Polarbear1955
I find it rather sad that OP blames GG rather than the actual thief and thinks that someone other than the actual thief should just hand him 500K because he claims it was stolen. GG says; correctly in my opinion, that we will not give you money just because you claim you did not give your agent/know your agent had the ability to take the money. Sue them or try to get them arrested and your money returned. In this case I believe OP was indeed robbed but if GG pays the precedent will be a very expensive error.
Why does GG allow “agents” to access anyone’s account that signs up under their referral code? That is the dumbest **** I’ve ever heard and how would a user know that when signing up in the first place?

When I use a referral code to get a discount on a product I don’t expect the website to send the referring person my credit card number. This is such a massively exploitable security flaw because it also allows someone to hack an agent’s account and then by default they have full access to every single person that signed up under the agent.
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08-30-2023 , 10:57 PM
I've never had an account at GG poker and have never used an "agent" So how does the agent have access to his username and password? Is GG giving it to them? I could understand the agent having the username, but not the password.
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08-30-2023 , 11:42 PM
If GG gave the agent the password, then GG should be libel. It is a flaw in GG's security to give people passwords and let them steal money.

Isn't there two step authentication or something? If I want to withdraw a few dollars from somewhere, they generally send some code to my cell phone. Did the affiliate add a new bank account to withdraw to?
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08-30-2023 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
I've never had an account at GG poker and have never used an "agent" So how does the agent have access to his username and password? Is GG giving it to them? I could understand the agent having the username, but not the password.
He’s saying that the agent admin access allows the agent to go in and change the password on his own so it doesn’t matter what the password is. If they have admin access they can also change the phone number for 2FA. This claim seems to be confirmed in his screenshots with GG and other people who have posted saying that agents do indeed have admin access.
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08-31-2023 , 12:14 AM
Next thing you'll tell me they don't segregate player-funds
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08-31-2023 , 12:29 AM
Can anyone describe the role of affiliate/agent for GG?

Can you play on GG without one?

OP said he deposited money directly into GG but that might have given him false sense of security. In other cases the agent might just take a pile of cash from someone and fund the account for them in providing an agent service. Like a joint checking account?

It’s different than apps but if you have an agent as opposed to an affiliate you better have a lot of trust in this person or just play with money that you assume might just disappear one day
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08-31-2023 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by crovax4444
Yes saw that, OP originally posted in there but looks like was moved but kept part of title “GG doesn’t care!” which probably increased initial clown replies
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08-31-2023 , 01:46 AM
Now this agent stole the $500K and can just disappear?

Wait, so from the other thread, an agent lets you play on a site from a country, etc. where you are not allowed in otherwise? Could I use an agent to play on regular PokerStars from the US?

So probably not a good idea to deposit $500K through an agent.

Last edited by deuceblocker; 08-31-2023 at 01:51 AM.
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08-31-2023 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Now this agent stole the $500K and can just disappear?

Wait, so from the other thread, an agent lets you play on a site from a country, etc. where you are not allowed in otherwise? Could I use an agent to play on regular PokerStars from the US?

So probably not a good idea to deposit $500K through an agent.
Sounds like OP doesn’t know him other than his username “cards88”, thus I think he’s a big favorite to successfully disappear.

From what I gather, you can also get better RB. He was probably laying in wait offering great RB plus a free tutorial on how to play pocket jacks. Led OP into believing he was just an affiliate but as far as GG goes they were more or less a married couple with a joint account.

It’s sickening but it’s over.
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08-31-2023 , 04:56 AM
Can I get the cliffs notes? Is GG at fault or this GG for OP?
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08-31-2023 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
Can I get the cliffs notes? Is GG at fault or this GG for OP?
OP
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08-31-2023 , 09:49 AM
So anyway update on the ordeal,

GGpoker didnt want to be liable and kept asking their staff to reply me in the same fashion of "We encourage you to look for your agent"

BUT finally! after 1 month and 5 days from the day that my funds were stolen.... and also after 5 days of endless social media publication of this case,. GGpoker finally woke up and got the MASTER agent of Cards88 to contact me, and they have paid me in full, i have all conversations documented just in the case of future conflict again..


I also promised the master agent to post this so here is copy pasted what he requested me to post

"From our end mainly hoping we let people know that the missing money has been covered, it wasn't directly GG or cards88 at fault, and was a rogue subagent allegedly scammed into requesting a withdrawal.

And also that the forums are a pretty good way to get the attention of the site and bigger agents when communication with email support or affiliate goes wrong."

I have to say however though, im not happy with how GGpoker has communicated this incident to me, and i had to make a big fuss, before they got the Master agent to contact me.

anyway also thanks to those guys who had shown concerned to me in this chat. if i run good this month of september, i will give out 10% of my winnings to those who were nice to me in this post and the post on reddit too..

Please reply your "concerned post" with a btc address or your GGpoker email, i will send some to you at the end of sept

and to those trolls who were scolding me for being stupid, yea... whos the stupid one now?? (or perhaps the toxic posts saying its all my fault were actually the minions of GGpoker?"
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08-31-2023 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
Sorry for my ironic post btw, but again, you said you’re a mid to highstakes player, so 500nl to 1knl. Why 500-1000x brm at once? Is it so hard to redeposit if you go tighter and end up busting it? Just makes no sense, I wouldn’t do it even on pokerstars , which is way safer. Poker sites are not banks lol.

Your story makes very little sense other than not being true at all, or, sorry for this one, dumbness.
when you play everything from 5-10 to 400-800 500-1000 why wouldnt you deposit 500k...


Short deck is a scary game my friend
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