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07-01-2014 , 11:16 PM

#2251

fatkid

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Originally Posted by SonOfDonk

Are you freaking serious right now? If I bought a piece of Colman and he won I would be furious if he told me he "made a deal" would you believe that? Take his word that he made a deal? There is no deal. Please please please get a clue.

You have no idea how deals work.

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07-01-2014 , 11:16 PM

#2252

pokertwoplustwolover

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Originally Posted by SonOfDonk

When sooooo much money is at stake is would make sense to kill some of the variance with some deal I would think

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07-01-2014 , 11:16 PM

#2253

beauvanlaanen

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Originally Posted by leleisaan

except being a dick in general. His online attitude is just lol.

lol because people care about online attitude. Hellmuth is an ******* to players but people like him because he does interviews? So if you don't do interviews you are a dick? Yeah, seems fair.

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07-01-2014 , 11:17 PM

#2254

beauvanlaanen

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Originally Posted by bentaylor1988

When sooooo much money is at stake is would make sense to kill some of the variance with some deal I would think

A lot of the deal talking is with a player and his backers, it's not just the players decision. If Coleman's backers think he has a huge edge he won't do a deal.

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07-01-2014 , 11:18 PM

#2255

LanceFedora

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Who dropped a deuce in the one drop. Is Kathy liebert still in I'm hard.

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07-01-2014 , 11:18 PM

#2256

DrawNone

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the honest answer is "i play poker to win money, that's it" to pretty much every question a poker "reporter" can think to ask. he doesn't owe them anything.

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07-01-2014 , 11:19 PM

#2257

ZenForest

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Originally Posted by jlozan84

This is not even close to true.

Maybe paying commentators, maybe hole cards, but not a stream.

My thoughts exactly......if my local poker rooms routinely live stream festival events, how is that the $1,000,000 BIG ONE FOR ONE DROP has no live stream ??

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07-01-2014 , 11:19 PM

#2258

leleisaan

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

lol because people care about online attitude. Hellmuth is an ******* to players but people like him because he does interviews? So if you don't do interviews you are a dick? Yeah, seems fair.

Hellmuth is ******ed, we all know that. He is just pure entertainment with some skills somewhere.

Colman is a internet wizzkid with a big mouth.

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07-01-2014 , 11:21 PM

#2259

Dexter_Cain

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Originally Posted by jlozan84

This is not even close to true.

Maybe paying commentators, maybe hole cards, but not a stream.

How in the world would it not be more expensive to do a stream?

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07-01-2014 , 11:21 PM

#2260

LeonardoDicaprio

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there's a large gap between "he doesn't owe them anything" and "not good for poker"

seems you are arguing two different premises

sure he can do whatever he wants, he ponied up the money to enter

doesn't mean the casual people watching wont all be cheering for negreanu

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07-01-2014 , 11:24 PM

#2261

DrawNone

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i hope he does the happy version of Popovich and gives one word answers to ESPN then gives no other interviews.

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Originally Posted by jlozan84

This is not even close to true.

Maybe paying commentators, maybe hole cards, but not a stream.

ESPN sells commercials when they air the event on TV. whether or not the poster you responded to understands that, that is the reason ESPN decided not to give their content away for free on the internet.

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07-01-2014 , 11:24 PM

#2262

Klinzmann

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Poker reporting has not evolved much, some years ago reporters were whining about tournament winners not tipping them.

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07-01-2014 , 11:25 PM

#2263

ILostMyAccount

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Is Daniel still in?

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07-01-2014 , 11:25 PM

#2264

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Originally Posted by ZenForest

can you define that statement ?
how much more does a simple live stream cost ?
and for such a hyped up event ? would it not be worth it ?

Live Stream: Cameras, camera mans, sound systems, commentators, production crew, production costs, venue, etc.

Blog: 2 dudes and two laptops.

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07-01-2014 , 11:25 PM

#2265

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

ESPN has the rights and they paid a lot of money to get those rights. Why would they let anybody show the footage before they air it?

They are only airing the heads up match.....correct ?

Regardless.....I don't think live stream or no live stream effect the eventual TV ratings. Can someone prove me wrong ??

By the time they air these things live, I feel the poker world has moved on.

Maybe you watch....maybe you don't......but it wont depend on weather you followed a live stream or not.......because you're surly following the blogs/tweets/etc....etc...already.

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07-01-2014 , 11:26 PM

#2266

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Originally Posted by ZenForest

My thoughts exactly......if my local poker rooms routinely live stream festival events, how is that the $1,000,000 BIG ONE FOR ONE DROP has no live stream ??

How many of these local poker room festival events are shown in highlight form on ESPN? Please think before you post.

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07-01-2014 , 11:26 PM

#2267

PlzCoolerMe

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No matter what, Whoever wakes up in 2nd place tomorrow will kick themselves for not making a deal if that's really the case... End of story.

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07-01-2014 , 11:27 PM

#2268

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Originally Posted by ZenForest

The year that the ME was streamed and resulted in a big dip in ESPN viewing figures proves you wrong quite nicely.

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07-01-2014 , 11:28 PM

#2269

ItchingAgain

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Anywhere else to follow this live besides wsop.com?

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07-01-2014 , 11:29 PM

#2270

DrawNone

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Originally Posted by ZenForest

ESPN proved you wrong when they looked at their internal data and made the business decision to not do a live stream.

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07-01-2014 , 11:30 PM

#2271

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Originally Posted by ZenForest

Whatever. No one owes you a stream. Espn ponied up money to have day so. They don't have to prove anything...though it seems pretty obvious.

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07-01-2014 , 11:30 PM

#2272

Dexter_Cain

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Originally Posted by ItchingAgain

Anywhere else to follow this live besides wsop.com?

http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...wsop/event-57/

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07-01-2014 , 11:30 PM

#2273

jlozan84

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Originally Posted by Vintage70s

Live Stream: Cameras, camera mans, sound systems, commentators, production crew, production costs, venue, etc.

Blog: 2 dudes and two laptops.

Um, it can be streamed without any of that stuff for like a grand a month on ************ It's very simple, really.

Certainly not WAY MORE as you claimed before.

Personally, I don't think it competes with the highly edited version that ESPN provides. I know I watch both. Most of the live players I know don't even want to watch the live stuff because most of it is raise, fold, next hand, etc. Too boring for them.

But yes I get that ESPN bought the rights for OneDrop / ME, and that's why the first time it'll be on TV is through their show. Makes complete sense, just unfortunate.

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07-01-2014 , 11:31 PM

#2274

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Originally Posted by Vintage70s

Live Stream: Cameras, camera mans, sound systems, commentators, production crew, production costs, venue, etc.

Blog: 2 dudes and two laptops.

A live stream is not a show produced for tv, fyi

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07-01-2014 , 11:31 PM

#2275

ZenForest

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

How many of these local poker room festival events are shown in highlight form on ESPN? Please think before you post.

DeepStacks Poker Tour Events (now part of WPT) have their own production crew filming for regional television episodes on Comcast. They still LIVE stream the event, and especially the final tables.

I doubt it has much effect on the TV Ratings of the final production. You watch each medium for very different reasons.......and I doubt one has much impact on the other.

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