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2011 WSOP Main Event Final Table thread Nov. 6 and 8 (tl;dr, Spoilers will get you banned!) 2011 WSOP Main Event Final Table thread Nov. 6 and 8 (tl;dr, Spoilers will get you banned!)

11-08-2011 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAABAR
lol at the people asking if straszko has a possibility of winning
yeah, if you took a regular 1/2 nl live player who is breakeven in his game and gave him staskco's stack his chances of winning are still better than 10%

my brief analysis of final table play imo

Three people who played the best

1. Heinz: Played a great game and was not as psycho as advertised really, I would describe his play as solid and aggresive but not lagtarded/sick. Picked his spots well and had the best hand in every big pot

2. O' dea: played very well and was involved in what I consider the hand of the final table- the one where he double barreled heinz with aq and almost got a fold for 20 million. methinks if he wins that hand he had excellent winning chances. also made a good call against Lamb with his A9

3.Lamb: very solid performance ; took a lot of standard lines and adjusted his three betting range very well against heinz

Three people who played the worst

1. Belize: this table was very sick and plays a lot like a final table in the 200 rebuy on stars. He was simply outclassed and his demeanor, his bet sizing , and his cigar take me back to the players of 2003-2005. His a5 shove is a perfect example of why you don't fold down to 5 bbs.

2. Phil collins: It's hard to pick a second worst player since there are no other bad players at the table. You cant really count makeyevskii or holden because they busted on standard shoves like 20 hands in. his strategy of limping and his qj shove seem suspect to mebut not neccessarily bad. while I wouldnt describe his play as "c-" like norman chad I also wouldn't describe it as A+. Luckily 2 million is a nice nest egg if his music career falls out.

3. stascko: The fact that stascko could even be considered for the worst three players at the final table indicates how strong this table really was. He is playing very well and is clearly a very good player, but he is an expert in a field of masters. the hand where he reraises ben lambs in an air on air battle stood out like a sore thumb- in the old days that wouldve been a strong play but at this level it screamed weakness and even I knew he was bluffing before i saw the cards and ben lamb easily 4 bet him.


who will win: my moneys gotta be on stascko yOu know because of the odds and all.... gl to all the final three they deserve to be here.
11-08-2011 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
This. And the programming may say it's scheduled for two hours, but I'm pretty sure it's going to run until its finished based on everything I've read.
i'd be surprised if they preempt the 11 o'clock sportscenter tbh...
11-08-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wild will
i'd be surprised if they preempt the 11 o'clock sportscenter tbh...
me thinks two hours is a good over/under. nh espn.
11-08-2011 , 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
who will win: my moneys gotta be on stascko yOu know because of the odds and all.... gl to all the final three they deserve to be here.
might wanna recheck that
11-08-2011 , 03:53 PM
Does it start in 7 hours? If so that's such a sucky time for europeans, will be 3am! They should start earlier next year.
11-08-2011 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
me thinks two hours is a good over/under. nh espn.
i'd take the over in a heartbeat
11-08-2011 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rendalli
Wow, PH commentary was so so bad.
This guy really must be some kind of intuition genius at the table to make all those results. His level of rational thinking about the game is so much weaker than Esfandiaris let alone livb.

He basically says that shoving A7 is terribad there because MG held JJ and he should have read the guy better - I mean wtf.
Reading abilities tho
11-08-2011 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
might wanna recheck that
I am getting really goot odds from a friend and fellow ameristar kc poker player Also I happen to be 335 czech, mate.
11-08-2011 , 03:57 PM
oh you meant your money on him literally, nvm lol.
11-08-2011 , 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
I am getting really goot odds from a friend and fellow ameristar kc poker player Also I happen to be 335 czech, mate.
pun for your man?
11-08-2011 , 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
yeah, if you took a regular 1/2 nl live player who is breakeven in his game and gave him staskco's stack his chances of winning are still better than 10%

my brief analysis of final table play imo

Three people who played the best

1. Heinz: Played a great game and was not as psycho as advertised really, I would describe his play as solid and aggresive but not lagtarded/sick. Picked his spots well and had the best hand in every big pot

2. O' dea: played very well and was involved in what I consider the hand of the final table- the one where he double barreled heinz with aq and almost got a fold for 20 million. methinks if he wins that hand he had excellent winning chances. also made a good call against Lamb with his A9

3.Lamb: very solid performance ; took a lot of standard lines and adjusted his three betting range very well against heinz

Three people who played the worst

1. Belize: this table was very sick and plays a lot like a final table in the 200 rebuy on stars. He was simply outclassed and his demeanor, his bet sizing , and his cigar take me back to the players of 2003-2005. His a5 shove is a perfect example of why you don't fold down to 5 bbs.

2. Phil collins: It's hard to pick a second worst player since there are no other bad players at the table. You cant really count makeyevskii or holden because they busted on standard shoves like 20 hands in. his strategy of limping and his qj shove seem suspect to mebut not neccessarily bad. while I wouldnt describe his play as "c-" like norman chad I also wouldn't describe it as A+. Luckily 2 million is a nice nest egg if his music career falls out.

3. stascko: The fact that stascko could even be considered for the worst three players at the final table indicates how strong this table really was. He is playing very well and is clearly a very good player, but he is an expert in a field of masters. the hand where he reraises ben lambs in an air on air battle stood out like a sore thumb- in the old days that wouldve been a strong play but at this level it screamed weakness and even I knew he was bluffing before i saw the cards and ben lamb easily 4 bet him.


who will win: my moneys gotta be on stascko yOu know because of the odds and all.... gl to all the final three they deserve to be here.
Excellent post.
11-08-2011 , 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
yeah, if you took a regular 1/2 nl live player who is breakeven in his game and gave him staskco's stack his chances of winning are still better than 10%

my brief analysis of final table play imo

Three people who played the best

1. Heinz: Played a great game and was not as psycho as advertised really, I would describe his play as solid and aggresive but not lagtarded/sick. Picked his spots well and had the best hand in every big pot

2. O' dea: played very well and was involved in what I consider the hand of the final table- the one where he double barreled heinz with aq and almost got a fold for 20 million. methinks if he wins that hand he had excellent winning chances. also made a good call against Lamb with his A9

3.Lamb: very solid performance ; took a lot of standard lines and adjusted his three betting range very well against heinz

Three people who played the worst

1. Belize: this table was very sick and plays a lot like a final table in the 200 rebuy on stars. He was simply outclassed and his demeanor, his bet sizing , and his cigar take me back to the players of 2003-2005. His a5 shove is a perfect example of why you don't fold down to 5 bbs.

2. Phil collins: It's hard to pick a second worst player since there are no other bad players at the table. You cant really count makeyevskii or holden because they busted on standard shoves like 20 hands in. his strategy of limping and his qj shove seem suspect to mebut not neccessarily bad. while I wouldnt describe his play as "c-" like norman chad I also wouldn't describe it as A+. Luckily 2 million is a nice nest egg if his music career falls out.

3. stascko: The fact that stascko could even be considered for the worst three players at the final table indicates how strong this table really was. He is playing very well and is clearly a very good player, but he is an expert in a field of masters. the hand where he reraises ben lambs in an air on air battle stood out like a sore thumb- in the old days that wouldve been a strong play but at this level it screamed weakness and even I knew he was bluffing before i saw the cards and ben lamb easily 4 bet him.


who will win: my moneys gotta be on stascko yOu know because of the odds and all.... gl to all the final three they deserve to be here.
A+ post. Only thing I disagree slightly is top 3 players. But really sick how poker evolved - even the donk at the table was way better than the donks we saw some years ago.
Stasko reshoved 67o, 3Bet A7s, K5s etc. , doublebarreled KJ (where he rivered str8) etc. and was (considered) the nit at the table - couple years ago he would have been on the active side with that style.

Anyway would be very interesting to see VPIP/PFR, 3Bet for the players - is this available somewhere?
11-08-2011 , 04:06 PM
Hurry, quick, it's on now because of protests from Euros!
11-08-2011 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PromethEV+s
Hurry, quick, it's on now because of protests from Euros!
nice!!
11-08-2011 , 04:31 PM
how many hours left until it begins?
11-08-2011 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
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dunno about the bottom 3 thing,holden and makiievsky were obv too short and cant be judged (sick turn for mckiev btw, painful to watch for him) but apart from the sucky bluff on flop after preflop misclick with 56o by stazsko, he didnt disappoint

I'd say there is a bottom 2,bounahra being outclassed for sure,collins not playing his A game,I just cant say that stazsko odea gianetti were one level under the others
11-08-2011 , 04:44 PM
i respected matt giannetti till i found out he got back together with his girlfriend after she obv had other guy
11-08-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KansasCT
how many hours left until it begins?
5 hours 15 minutes
11-08-2011 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MauvaisOeil
dunno about the bottom 3 thing,holden and makiievsky were obv too short and cant be judged (sick turn for mckiev btw, painful to watch for him) but apart from the sucky bluff on flop after preflop misclick with 56o by stazsko, he didnt disappoint

I'd say there is a bottom 2,bounahra being outclassed for sure,collins not playing his A game,I just cant say that stazsko odea gianetti were one level under the others
i agree with everything here. while i appreciate the fact that collins was trying to be creative/tricky/balanced/whatever by limping, i just dont get it. i think he outsmarted himself, would've been better off just treating it like the ft of a 109r or something.


o'dea made a good bluff in that hand imo, just ul heinz was at the top of his range. i think heinz folds JcJx there.

Last edited by wild will; 11-08-2011 at 04:57 PM.
11-08-2011 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nickybro27
I think comes back on at 9est not too sure tho.
Can anyone confirm if TSN's coverage tonight is actually the final 3 not repeat of today's Sunday action?
11-08-2011 , 04:58 PM
I'm torn between the ketchup dude and Mary's little lamb... should be fun and think that Mary's little lamb has the advantage of the extra day off. Only time shall tell now!

GL final 3!
11-08-2011 , 05:01 PM
how does lamb have an extra day off
11-08-2011 , 05:01 PM
i heard rumors that they already dealed, someone info, cliffs, sources for this?
11-08-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by carradioyes
Can anyone confirm if TSN's coverage tonight is actually the final 3 not repeat of today's Sunday action?
It will be the live ESPN feed of the final 3. However they only have a 2 hour block scheduled. I'm not sure what the plan is if it goes longer than that.
Since they have a later repeat block scheduled on TSN2 I assume they would continue live coverage on TSN2.
11-08-2011 , 05:09 PM
anybody wanna give me 4.5-1 on staszco? i got merge, up to $100

      
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