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What is the definition of "woke"? What is the definition of "woke"?

03-09-2023 , 03:02 PM
Let's start with this recent footage from a Congressional hearing.



When made to definite it in a court case, lawyers for Ron DeSantis gave the following:



A recent poll shows a partisan divide in how people define "wokeness":



https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american...ment-or-insult


Given the high salience of wokeness as a concept, it feels like this is a word where we should try to operate under a common definition, and yet....

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[British lexicographer and linguist Tony ] Thorne said liberals once might have called themselves "woke" to affirm their devotion to social justice during the Black Lives Matter and Me Too movements. However, he said, conservatives have reshaped "woke" into an all-purpose condemnation for their opponents, often meaning something like "self-righteous leftist." In this sense, Thorne said, "woke" joins "politically correct," "cancel culture" and "metropolitan liberal elite" as terms conservatives use against opponents.

"If you use a term like this, it functions as a trigger word or 'dog whistle,' in that as soon as you say it you no longer need to say anything else," Thorne said. "The word will be accepted by your base, rejected by your opponents and no further discussion will take place."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2...an-to-be-woke/

How do you use "wokeness" as a term? Do you believe that some use it as an ill-defined weapon to demagogue against certain groups and viewpoints?
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03-09-2023 , 05:00 PM
the left knows what it means, and the right doesn't care what it means.. the right doesn't care what anything means whether it's CRT, woke, groomer... as long as it messages and sells to the rubes they'll get behind it..
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03-09-2023 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
the left knows what it means, and the right doesn't care what it means.. the right doesn't care what anything means whether it's CRT, woke, groomer... as long as it messages and sells to the rubes they'll get behind it..
So the left knows and the right doesnt. I think everyone has a different interpretation of the word. I know I would have a tough time defining it
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03-09-2023 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So the left knows and the right doesnt. I think everyone has a different interpretation of the word. I know I would have a tough time defining it
as seen above, the right has ALREADY defined it when they were forced to on record.. they know what it means. they simply dont care.

tbf- i think the right's messaging is always significantly better than the left's. but they may be a factor of how it's easier to make marketable pitches and slogans when you simply dont care that words have meanings.

Last edited by Slighted; 03-09-2023 at 05:15 PM.
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03-09-2023 , 05:16 PM
Wokeness?

Mainly virtue signalling. Pretending to care about things to raise your social brownie points so you can have moral superiority over others and allows you to sleep better at night.

We see this all the time, the biggest display of fake careness was during the pandemic when people get massively triggered if you didn't follow the "masking rules" or the lockdown measures.
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03-09-2023 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Wokeness?

Mainly virtue signalling. Pretending to care about things to raise your social brownie points so you can have moral superiority over others and allows you to sleep better at night.

We see this all the time, the biggest display of fake careness was during the pandemic when people get massively triggered if you didn't follow the "masking rules" or the lockdown measures.
i still wear a mask to places like the grocery store in a deeply red state, and trust me the people i see acting "triggered" are the ones on your side of the aisle..
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03-09-2023 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
i still wear a mask to places like the grocery store in a deeply red state, and trust me the people i see acting "triggered" are the ones on your side of the aisle..
of course you do.

slave labor bad. IPhone good.
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03-09-2023 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
the left knows what it means, and the right doesn't care what it means.. the right doesn't care what anything means whether it's CRT, woke, groomer... as long as it messages and sells to the rubes they'll get behind it..
Well what is it?
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03-09-2023 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Mainly virtue signalling. Pretending to care about things to raise your social brownie points so you can have moral superiority over others and allows you to sleep better at night.
The moral inferiority of others keeps me awake at night.

Accusations of virtue signaling often betray a lack of empathy from people who just can't believe that someone would be sincere about the beliefs being expressed.
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03-09-2023 , 08:51 PM
"insufferable progressives" is probably a decent definition fwiw.
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03-09-2023 , 08:54 PM
Slighted wears a mask to the grocery store and interviews everyone that gets "triggered." Because of course.
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03-09-2023 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
The moral inferiority of others keeps me awake at night.

Accusations of virtue signaling often betray a lack of empathy from people who just can't believe that someone would be sincere about the beliefs being expressed.
liberals are sincere until they actually get skin in the game. look at the recent trans stuff being pushed by the "pragmatic left". look at the history of schools and housing.

hell, look at the NFL and other large corporations that liberals now feel good about bc they run "End Racism" week while steamrolling minorities whenever convenient.

wokeness is about the best tool there is for dividing people at this point in time.
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03-09-2023 , 09:00 PM
Woke

And I could have picked 25 different sources but choose Fox ��

https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitte...rd-game-ladies
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03-09-2023 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Well what is it?
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Originally Posted by Slighted
as seen above, the right has ALREADY defined it when they were forced to on record.. they know what it means. they simply dont care.

tbf- i think the right's messaging is always significantly better than the left's. but they may be a factor of how it's easier to make marketable pitches and slogans when you simply dont care that words have meanings.
From Desantis' councel via twitter tweet above: woke is "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”
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03-09-2023 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
Slighted wears a mask to the grocery store and interviews everyone that gets "triggered." Because of course.
In their minds, we should have always been wearing masks in public (like in Japan), and now that the pandemic has occured it has given them an excuse to do so. They will wear them for the rest of their lives.

This is because they hate themselves and don't want people to see their faces.

There is actually a study that says that the people still masking view themselves as less attractive.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/28/11600...tiveness-study

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 03-09-2023 at 09:14 PM.
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03-09-2023 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Wokeness?

Mainly virtue signalling. Pretending to care about things to raise your social brownie points so you can have moral superiority over others and allows you to sleep better at night.
Sounds a hell of a lot like what we've experienced from conservatives--sorry the moral majority--for decades
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03-09-2023 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
In their minds, we should have always been wearing masks in public (like in Japan), and now that the pandemic has occured it has given them an excuse to do so. They will wear them for the rest of their lives.

This is because they hate themselves and don't want people to see their faces
Most people thinking we should have been wearing masks in public like in Japan are referring to instances when we know we have caught a virus and are contagious I would think. And the continued use of masks now is probably still in relation to the belief in their efficacy against the Coronavirus. Some people might also want to cover their face for other reasons as well, but defining masking entirely by that phenomena is such a cynical and overly expansive take.
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03-09-2023 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 14cobster
Most people thinking we should have been wearing masks in public like in Japan are referring to instances when we know we have caught a virus and are contagious I would think. And the continued use of masks now is probably still in relation to the belief in their efficacy against the Coronavirus. Some people might also want to cover their face for other reasons as well, but defining masking entirely by that phenomena is such a cynical and overly expansive take.
I don't think that's true about the current maskers. Otherwise they would have to always think they caught a virus. They aren't wearing them sporadically but permanently.
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03-09-2023 , 09:30 PM
But they could still be operating under the assumption they could potentially be asymptomatic, which was the fundamental reason according to scientific majority for having everyone mask up in public places during the height of the pandemic. Or they might believe they are offering protection to themselves, particularly with an N95 mask, as it was deemed to have that capability.
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03-09-2023 , 09:35 PM
or they're crazy
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03-09-2023 , 09:38 PM
It's certainly true that some people want to feel more attractive. I shouldn't judge people too harshly for wearing masks for that reason though as I place too much self worth on my looks. I was self conscious today at work because weed withdrawal made my eyes look tired and dried out my face a little, lol.
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03-09-2023 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
or they're crazy
Some people go too far with it in my estimation. I stopped wearing a mask at work as soon as the mandate was lifted in my county. But I really mean it when I say that the people who seemed particularly crazy were those who were absolutely livid about having to wear a mask in the height of the pandemic in accordance with medical authorities and mandates. People erupting with ire over it. Also, I think that it was definitely inconsiderate not to wear a mask in the beginning when it was first mandated, disregarding experts and risking the possible spread, and also just not uniting with other citizens in effort to help combat the spread of covid.
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03-09-2023 , 09:50 PM
Anyway, this is for the Covid thread at this point ldo.
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03-09-2023 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
or they're crazy
Probably not as crazy as a family addicted to plastic surgery that run around talking about how great their genes are
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03-09-2023 , 09:54 PM
Masks have proven far more effective than the vaccine. I dont understand Nate et al problems with ppl wearing them.
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