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09-27-2023 , 11:41 AM

#301

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

I'm doing woke classes, I could sign you up and fix these issues you have.

Results guaranteed or your money back!*

*classes are free

How about you take your race baiting bullshit and get the **** out of here.

But let me ask you a question: what is your basis for saying that it's women and non whites I think the worst about?

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09-27-2023 , 11:46 AM

#302

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

What the **** are you even talking about?

You don't know me at all, right? How do you have any idea who the people are I think the worst about?

Because I'm a product of the Bush years, the people that I think the worst about (if that's even a thing) are neocons. How many non white women are in the Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, PNAC crowd?

I think it's pretty clear. I think you have gender and race biases. You read an email about a black president doing something pretty normal and your conclusion is that he's not capable of picking his own cabinet. You think a shadowy cabal chose the cabinet for him.

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09-27-2023 , 11:52 AM

#303

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

Wait a minute-- did he pick his cabinet or were the names not largely contained in that email one month before he was even elected?

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09-27-2023 , 11:53 AM

#304

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

What is the basis for you thinking that I have a gender bias?

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09-27-2023 , 11:54 AM

#305

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Caseclosed-- is it possible to think something bad about one of your favorite non white or non male politicians and not have a bias against whole categories of people?

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09-27-2023 , 11:56 AM

#306

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Caseclosed--on a scale of 1-10 what's your opinion of Obama as a president?

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09-27-2023 , 12:01 PM

#307

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Man people are really mad to learn that about Obama. I had forgotten tbh.

But wait, let me tell you guys about the two Americans he killed without trial!

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09-27-2023 , 12:58 PM

#308

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

Man people are really mad to learn that about Obama. I had forgotten tbh.

But wait, let me tell you guys about the two Americans he killed without trial!

Everyone knew about this. Only weirdo conspiracy people use lucky's framing.

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09-27-2023 , 01:13 PM

#309

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

How about you take your race baiting bullshit and get the **** out of here.

But let me ask you a question: what is your basis for saying that it's women and non whites I think the worst about?

Yeah, using the term "race baiting" reallly helps me with my point.

Whenever you want to take the class, I'll sign you up.

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09-27-2023 , 02:12 PM

#310

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

Yeah, using the term "race baiting" reallly helps me with my point.

Whenever you want to take the class, I'll sign you up.

Are you ever going to say what your basis is for saying that I hate women?

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09-27-2023 , 02:13 PM

#311

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Just a general point - misogyny, as used in the context of political discussion today, isn't really the "hatred" of women. It's more a lack of respect for women and women's rights, and/or a general attitude that women are inferior to men.

Not saying anyone here is guilty of that; just a definitional interlude.

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09-27-2023 , 02:17 PM

#312

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Just as a general point, misogyny, as used in the context of political discussion today, isn't really the "hatred" of women, it's more lack of respect for women and women's rights, and/or a general attitude that women are inferior to men.

Not saying anyone here is guilty of that. Just a definitional interlude.

In this instance caseclosed specifically said that I hate them. Can't even define them but somehow I hate them.

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09-27-2023 , 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

In this instance caseclosed specifically said that I hate them. Can't even define them but somehow I hate them.

Ok I missed that part, I thought he had called you a misogynist. I imagine he probably meant my definition regardless of the words he used, but I'm not really looking to get involved in whatever you two got going here.

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09-27-2023 , 02:20 PM

#314

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Are you ever going to say what your basis is for saying that I hate women?

The stuff you said in other threads. Your conspiracy theorist nature. All of it points in the same direction.

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09-27-2023 , 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

This is a distinction without a difference to me.

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09-27-2023 , 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

This is a distinction without a difference to me.

Lack of respect and hate are definitely different things.

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09-27-2023 , 02:28 PM

#317

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

The stuff you said in other threads. Your conspiracy theorist nature. All of it points in the same direction.

So in your opinion conspiracy theorists hate people who aren't white males? Why do you think that is?

Can you give an example of something I said in another thread that leads you to believe I hate women?

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09-27-2023 , 02:29 PM

#318

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What if I told you that not all conspiracy theorists are white males? Would you believe me?

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09-27-2023 , 02:31 PM

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Case, you're barking up the wrong tree. Luckbox is not white.

Sorry to knock your action LB, but you were going to drag this out painfully before you dropped the hammer.

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09-27-2023 , 02:38 PM

#320

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You are allowed to say racist things in this forum as long as they are about white people

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09-27-2023 , 02:39 PM

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You are allowed to say racist things in this forum as long as they are about white people

Crackers be crazy.

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09-27-2023 , 02:58 PM

#322

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Crackers be crazy.

Now try it again with a different slur for a different race

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09-27-2023 , 03:01 PM

#323

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Originally Posted by wreckem713

Now try it again with a different slur for a different race

Well, I said it in Ebonics, does that count?

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09-27-2023 , 03:02 PM

#324

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Well, I said it in Ebonics, does that count?

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09-27-2023 , 03:14 PM

#325

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Generally most conspiracy theorists are bigots. that's part of the reason why it always comes back to anti-semitic conspiracies. Something you did not like happened? oh well, you know, the "banks" did it.

Go the last argument we had and quote that. I already did it.

Or I could wait a couple hours and find something new.

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