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Originally Posted by Victor
you want me to argue against a complicated counterfactual hypothetical? bruv, I just dont think if there was a negotiation and Russia agreed that it would invade.
Yes. Why do you believe this?
There is approximately 0% chance Putin would not have invaded Ukraine again if Ukraine had agreed to that ceasefire. I believe this because the ceasefire would have crippled Ukraine's military and made them an easy target. Putin, and Russia, have a track record of using such ceasefires to reconstitute and attack again. This ceasefire would have given Russia veto powers on foreign aid from reaching Ukraine. Putin and Russia's top authorities continue to state their original war goals, say that Ukraine doesn't have a right to exist, and that they will conquer all of Ukraine.
See? Very easy. Your turn, otherwise you are avoiding the question.
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lol I never said anything like this. why do you lie so much?
Liars lie. Quit gaslighting. How did you forget this, it happened today?
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Do you think Ukraine has the moral high ground in defending themselves from Russian imperialism and Putin's genocide?
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Originally Posted by Victor
eh...about 5050. and lol genocide. its actually offensive to refer to it as such given whats going on in Gaza.