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09-10-2021 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
nick's insights on this topic are almost exactly what I would have predicted.
Thank you.
09-10-2021 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I agree with you on most cases. Though as a mental health professional do you believe we should be giving children medications that have a life changing impact?
Are you against people under the 18 taking the birth control pill?
09-10-2021 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Are you against people under the 18 taking the birth control pill?
lol dude deflected your question with a completely unrelated question.
09-10-2021 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Yes Transphobia means you fear trans folks.
No, that is not what it means. Nor does homophobia mean you fear gay people. Or "the Gays", as Cuepee would call them. As with innumerable words in the English language, its etymological roots aren't the same as the contemporary meaning.
09-10-2021 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
lol dude deflected your question with a completely unrelated question.
Deeply transphobic views AND bad at logic? Who would have guessed!
09-10-2021 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Deeply transphobic views AND bad at logic? Who would have guessed!
Once again, the dude doesn't know the definition of "transphobic". Surprise surprise! Go punt another question, big guy.
09-10-2021 , 02:11 PM
On trans issues, I try to empathize with young trans kids who are navigating a hostile world that broadly speaking doesn't understand or accept them. I try to imagine what it would feel like if a person of authority in my life, or even just a classmate, suggested that my gender identity was a mental problem that I need to go get help fixing. Small wonder the suicide rates for young trans kids are so tragically high.
09-10-2021 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
On trans issues, I try to empathize with young trans kids who are navigating a hostile world that broadly speaking doesn't understand or accept them. I try to imagine what it would feel like if a person of authority in my life, or even just a classmate, suggested that my gender identity was a mental problem that I need to go get help fixing. Small wonder the suicide rates for young trans kids are so tragically high.
Parents should be arrested for allowing children, who haven't fully developed their brains yet, to take that damn medication.
09-10-2021 , 02:36 PM
Which is more indicative of a "mental health issue"?

- spanning 10 posts in 2 hours spouting deeply regressive, offensive, antiquated diatribes against trans people to an audience that has no desire to hear any of it

or:

- being trans
09-10-2021 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Parents should be arrested for allowing children, who haven't fully developed their brains yet, to take that damn medication.
You should be arrested for participating (proudly, no less!) in the world's most dangerous terrorist organization, the US military.
09-10-2021 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DifferentName
Which is more indicative of a "mental health issue"?

- spanning 10 posts in 2 hours spouting deeply regressive, offensive, antiquated diatribes against trans people to an audience that has no desire to hear any of it

or:

- being trans
Being trans. Option #1 could be just someone being bored at work.

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Originally Posted by DifferentName
You should be arrested for participating (proudly, no less!) in the world's most dangerous terrorist organization, the US military.
You should see the fat paychecks I get for the rest of my life.
09-10-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Being trans. Option #1 could be just someone being bored at work.
Huh. I've been bored in the past too, but I didn't solve it by going on the internet and advocating oppressing innocent children who are just trying to find themselves.


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Originally Posted by nick619
You should see the fat paychecks I get for the rest of my life.
lol

I make more money than you by playing poker on the internet. And as a side bonus I don't have to blow up any Nicaraguan teenagers or Afghan weddings!
09-10-2021 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DifferentName
Huh. I've been bored in the past too, but I didn't solve it by going on the internet and advocating oppressing innocent children who are just trying to find themselves.




lol

I make more money than you by playing poker on the internet. And as a side bonus I don't have to blow up any Nicaraguan teenagers or Afghan weddings!
So you would allow kids that are born with a penis to have surgery and change to a girl? Thank God you're not in my social circle.

Almost everyone on this forum claim to be making hundreds of thousands of dollars on the internet playing poker. Funny how that works, huh?
09-10-2021 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
No, that is not what it means. Nor does homophobia mean you fear gay people. Or "the Gays", as Cuepee would call them. As with innumerable words in the English language, its etymological roots aren't the same as the contemporary meaning.
Alright uke, you got me in.

Let's do this and light this thread up. I'm your huckleberry.

(for all those who want to register their complaints once we go a few pages here feel free to do so in advance. I'll allow it.)



Uke you are simply wrong when it comes to use of language. Ignorant and proven wrong. You should sit this one out and let people smarter than you converse.
09-10-2021 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Alright uke, you got me in.

Let's do this and light this thread up. I'm your huckleberry.

(for all those who want to register their complaints once we go a few pages here feel free to do so in advance. I'll allow it.)



Uke you are simply wrong when it comes to use of language. Ignorant and proven wrong. You should sit this one out and let people smarter than you converse.
It is rare when I agree with Cuepee, but I agree with this assessment.
09-10-2021 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Are you against people under the 18 taking the birth control pill?
Not the same thing and no
09-10-2021 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Alright uke, you got me in.

Let's do this and light this thread up. I'm your huckleberry.

(for all those who want to register their complaints once we go a few pages here feel free to do so in advance. I'll allow it.)



Uke you are simply wrong when it comes to use of language. Ignorant and proven wrong. You should sit this one out and let people smarter than you converse.
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Originally Posted by nick619
It is rare when I agree with Cuepee, but I agree with this assessment.
Cuepee, if this doesn't make you rethink your position I don't think anything will.
09-10-2021 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Cuepee, if this doesn't make you rethink your position I don't anything will.
I'll take that as you pre -registering your agreement with uke, no matter the discussion, as usual.

And that btw is exactly why uke is constantly using allusions to racism, homophobia and xenophobia when they have nothing to do with my posts or my statements.

He wants you and others to create and accept that association as he creates his 'enemies'. His 'bad guys'.

Are you new?
09-10-2021 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Cuepee, if this doesn't make you rethink your position I don't anything will.
I brought her out of hiding. Yay!
09-10-2021 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
So you would allow kids that are born with a penis to have surgery and change to a girl?
Well, it's more complex than that, which I assume you know.

In general, yes, if I had a child that very clearly "felt" (i.e., what their mind is strongly, permanently telling them) that they belong to another gender, then yeah, I would allow them to have the required surgery and procedures.

I have a friend with a sibling that was born with female parts who is a post-op trans man that now goes by a typically male name. He is one million times happier now. He can be who his brain was telling him he was since birth. This is a great thing! A wonder of modern science! To deprive people of this option is so very cruel. Just pure resentment; the thing that truly drives Republicans.

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Originally Posted by nick619
Thank God you're not in my social circle.
The feeling is mother****ing mutual.

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Originally Posted by nick619
Almost everyone on this forum claim to be making hundreds of thousands of dollars on the internet playing poker. Funny how that works, huh?
No they don't. lol. I don't think I've EVER heard someone else, in the politics forum at least, talk about how they're rich from playing poker.

Edit: Now that I think of it, I've seen multiple people ITT claim that don't even play poker anymore and haven't for years! More people saying THAT then claiming they make big money in 2021 playing poker.

But anyway, prop bet? If I can show you a 100k+ USD balance on Ignition Poker you have to donate 1k to an organization that aides trans teens at risk. If I can't show you that I'll donate 5k to whatever vampire right-wing pro-abuse fundy group that you like.

Last edited by DifferentName; 09-10-2021 at 03:22 PM.
09-10-2021 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I'll take that as you pre -registering your agreement with uke, no matter the discussion, as usual.

And that btw is exactly why uke is constantly using allusions to racism, homophobia and xenophobia when they have nothing to do with my posts or my statements.

He wants you and others to create and accept that association as he creates his 'enemies'. His 'bad guys'.

Are you new?
None of this has ever happened.

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Originally Posted by nick619
I brought her out of hiding. Yay!
Do you think I'm a woman or do you think that's an insult?
09-10-2021 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Do you think I'm a woman or do you think that's an insult?
I think you're a woman.
09-10-2021 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
I think you're a woman.
Well I guess you're gay because you have a raging boner for a guy.

Btw Cuepee, Uke even came to your defense when I said it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume you are being intentionally transphobic. Which makes it all the more ridiculous and laughable you rave on like this:

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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I'll take that as you pre -registering your agreement with uke, no matter the discussion, as usual.

And that btw is exactly why uke is constantly using allusions to racism, homophobia and xenophobia when they have nothing to do with my posts or my statements.

He wants you and others to create and accept that association as he creates his 'enemies'. His 'bad guys'.

Are you new?
09-10-2021 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Well I guess you're gay because you have a raging boner for a guy.
Okay. Don't tell my wife. Thanks.
09-10-2021 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Not the same thing and no
Indeed, so follow your logic backwards. You said this:

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Though as a mental health professional do you believe we should be giving children medications that have a life changing impact?
In one context you seem entirely acceptable with giving estrogen to 17 year olds, but not another. Both clearly have life changing impact. So this question you have asked just isn't the right question since it can't differentiate here.

      
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