I understand your perspective because I have similar enough sorts of thoughts about my friend...but I also know that in her case there is no potential allure of reviving a career.

And perhaps if I didn't know her I'd be more cynical about motives in cases such as Page's.... But I'm also the sort of person who wouldn't even get a tattoo let alone completely change my outward appearance to be that of a different sex... so probably I'd tend to give those who do the benefit of the doubt.

Your simplification is dishonest as usual and does not work.


It is a TRUISM and FACT that male actors on the height extremes struggle to get roles in hollywood generally.

No one needs to 'chose' that take as it is fact and true whether anyone takes it or not.

Trying to associate that with washoe's hottake guess as to Elliot's motives, is just nonsense.

How many livers do you think people have?

I guess I should have read one more post before my last reply.

It is not "unfair". It is a deliberately dishonest technique by Trolly.

Like uke, the two of them will not let honesty stand between them and any point they feel they need to make. Funny how they deplore Trump and the rights use of dishonesty as a tactic and yet they are oblivious of how it is their first go to.

Pick a lane Trolly.

You go from lauding Elliott for an abundance or roles and then switch to mocking the idea there are roles for a transgender man.


This is an honest take on your double speak unlikes your dishonest attempt to manufacture one by conflating the posts of different people.

my bad. of course meant kidneys.

Lots to confront washoe on but these are not good takes.

Dinklage, DeVito, Pesci are extreme outliers which is the point. If you want I can show you a recent video where Dinklage decried the remake of the Snow White and 7 Dwarves movie for not being sensitive to people with dwarfisms. Guess who called him out on that? Dwarf actors who complain there are already so few roles for them and they don't want studios avoiding putting them in roles like that due to someone else thinking they are being inconsiderate.

Dinklage apologized to them citing he does get to speak from a place of privilege, as he has broken thru and understands their position and why they not only support the role but work with DIsney in writing it as a community.

Streep, Mirren, Connolly et al, also are outliers. While there are still a good number of roles for older women over all, it also very true to say the vast majority of actresses will struggle to maintain a career after age 40.

oh I see. it's not so much careers for most people. it's the sense of belonging of having some sort of purpose. or for some real dumb people some sort of importance of being special. thats not true for legitimate trans women and men. so your friend must be a trans women i guess. that's much more common than page's case.

I never said she did it to become casted more, although that might be her latent wish. i think she was in a very dark place rrlationship and carreer wise and i think she might have done it thinking that's the solution. to escape her role in her life, which wasn't satisfying anymore. if you are a 5 foot woman you are perceived as vulnerable of weak. of course it would be wrong to change that to take charge of life finally as a man. maybe I'm wrong and that's too much speculation. I'm trying to get behind and the whole thing is crazy to me i don't trust actors to tell you truth btw. i think they are all narcisitic bastards more or less.

I don't think my friend is "legitimate" trans. I think she hates herself and is using changing genders as a substitute for therapy, more or less.

Has your trans friend done any surgery/hormones; or did they just change their gender without any major alterations to their phenotype?

I think one of the problems with these types of discussions, and more generally a problem with progressive "-isms," is that they tend to be blanket terms that dont offer much clarity what is really going on.

[QUOTE=washoe;57741578]problem is she is not known for her strong character roles.
lololololol, poster says this Elliott dude is not known for his strong character roles and moron references a 20 year old movie.

troll loser is something

the "she is not known" to "has never been known" is awesome

She's taking testosterone. I assume that the eventual plan would be surgery but that isn't something I've discussed with her.

who's cheering again? please quote where anyone has done such a thing

you do this repeatedly, literally wholly fabricate things that never took place, it's really sad

This exchange has a lot of red flags for me. Whether someone is a "legitimate" trans person or not has nothing to do with whether they look "super feminine" or not. Trust and support and uplift your trans friends, don't judge them by their looks, question their legitimacy and ruminate about their mental health problems. I obviously don't know anything about Luckbox's "friend", but yikes a surface level reading doesn't look good here.

Are you misgendering your trans friend or do they still use she/her pronouns while transitioning to (it sounds like) male on testosterone?

There are legitimate trans and there are fakers.
According to this she is lying and deceiving you.
For this she wont get an oscar, too bad there are so many videos of her for you to analize.

Putting this liar on the the cover of time magazine is an outrage!

And if you cant tell she is bullshitting you, do not play live poker! You are too easy to bullshit.

She is obviously lying and faking the whole thing. Watch some interviews or think about it. Anyone can see it.

First gay, then trans all on camera, experts are taking her apart now btw. So just wait for another break down of her now.

It is sad to see the fake trans people trope reappear, once again, ITT.

cliffs: trends in trans, and detransitioning. Huge spikes, 90% of females transition now. gay men do not have those rates. there is no explanation other than crazyness.

uke, educate yourself about whats actually going on now, instead of parroting whats thrown at you.

and one question to you, why is it majorly women who identify as non binary now? why not men?
Are they not happy anymore with being a woman? do they wanna be the tough guy now? why is the lgtb community losing numbers now?


ever heard of misogynie? why is it important here? duh!

what's actually sad are the numbers now. just take a look at this trend. i would start with looking at numbers of detransitioning. why is there are huge spike now?

The irony is strong in this one

oh yeah? what do you know?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4771004/

I don't think you understand any of this nutella, nor what it means to undergo an srs. learn about the complications or any of the consequences, statistics (numbers!) are helpful here.


let me tell you what you have here,
you have 2 huge problems.

1) there are way too many SRS now

2) your doctors are not properly trained in SRSs. which leads to complications.