someone should tell trudeau, you don't actually have to do anything or have good policies, but as long as you show a little anger and folksy language when criticizing things like covid 19 and americans then lozen will find you impressive.

Speaking of actions speaking louder than the blustering rhetoric of Doug Ford, appreciate this decisive action by the trudeau government on this file: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fre...rump-1.5677757

Dollar for dollar retaliatory tarrifs are a great example of what they should be doing. Impressive!

No its something they say they will be doing. Chances are they will do nothing and wait out the election. Lets face it he is scared of Trump

Heck if your Trudeau you can shoot someone on Bloor St and as long as its for the Children , Quebec jobs , or you say growing up I led an entitled life and did not know better you get a pass from Uke We have our own Trudeau Bot

Glad to see he has called for Bill Morneau's resignation. Oh Wait

Hasn't this government already previously instituted tariffs in retaliation to Trump being a moron? I don't get what lozen is talking about 98% of the time cause he seems to like his politicians yelling about things more than them actually doing anything

Yes they have but the issue is they can only retaliate with tariffs back with things that contain Aluminum from what Global is saying. Did they not see this coming and have lists ready. Nope instead we will consult CDN's on what we should tariff.

Now we learn that WE was going to contract out the services they were only qualified to administer

No, that really isn't what the chances are. I suspect you are misunderstanding what the "Notice of Intent" that was published today was. It was a detailed list of products to come into effect in 30 days time, for the duration of the tarrifs against canada, matched dollar to dollar. This is great. The 30 days is specifically to give the affected businesses the opportunity to comment on some details from the list, which is exactly what a market supporting government like the liberals should be doing. The best part - and the liberals officially claim this isn't deliberate although of course it is - is how targeted the list is to cause swing state pain, particularly in places like wisconsin. Of course, the kind of high level trade tactics going on right now probably soar over both of our heads, so hard to grade exactly, but at least on the surface it appears this is GREAT JOB TRUDEAU!!!! on the actual substance while ford is doing nothing but empty blustering that you are latching on to. Kinda sad.

It's pretty sad you keep stooping to this tired trope no matter how many times I refute it, but can you at least stop making up new bullshit like randomly bring up, presumably, blackface against and your purely imagined sense of my view on that issue? Stick to actual fact happening by the government and the words I've actually said on those facts.

WRONG. They obviously saw this coming - everyone did - and were well prepared with an extremely detailed list of retaliatory tarrifs ready on DAY ONE. Come on man, obviously ****ing obviously they were prepared. Are you really trying to be mad that they are - completely correctly - giving a consultation period with the business community who will be affected by this to make sure their list is spot on?

Imagine it was reversed. Imagine they just implimented the list they have right now without any consultation. Imagine one of the line items ends up being particularly harmful to some business sector. OF COURSE lozen would be yelling and yelling about how terrible the liberals were for ignoring the business sector and acting unilaterally.

Great! Indeed, the 43 million the media quotes often explicitly includes millions that to be subcontracted out to other charities. The scale of the program was massive - so massive the civil service quite reasonably believed the service corps couldn't handle it - and it is hard to imagine an organization that was completely perfect in all regards. WE seems unquestionably the best (notice how almost nobody ever proposes reasonable alternatives), but that doesn't mean there aren't bits they could subcontract out to. Again, none of those remotely touches on trudeau acting badly in any way, it is just opposition throwing as much smoke as possible.

You believe that and I will not .


So How do you defend dictator Trudeau spending over 10 million on renovations to his cottage at the taxpayers expense?

You mean the site owned and maintained by the federal government that has been the summer residence of the serving Canadian PM for decades is having renovations performed and paid for by the federal government?

Lozen, you just got badly pwned making up nonsensical criticisms of trudeau's actions on trade while praising ford's empty rhetoric, don't you think you'd do a touch bit more research before pivoting to a completely new talking point?

Guess not. Well, let's go to the books:
Obviously the NCC deciding to - seemingly appropriately - spend money on upgrading a Canadian heritage building has nothing at all to do with dictator (uh...minority leader?) trudeau. Presenting this without the relevant facts as if this is something trudeau is doing for himself personally is just embarrassing. Be better than this.

Sometimes you can not take a joke So yes I got owned


Though the one statement I will stand by is that Justin Trudeau may be one of the most corrupt Prime Ministers in CDN history.

He has done well making sue his friends and family are well taken care of on the tax payers dime

Ok. But notice how when pressed for details, they always fall apart? Perhaps the embarrassingly terrible point about the NCC making appropriate renovations to a federal heritage building was just a "joke", but you keep doing things like this where you raise points that vaguely, tangentially are in the direction of trudeau being the "most corrupt PM", only for them to become incredibly banal when pressed on the details.

And let's be completely clear: on the WE charity scandal, there is currently exactly zero evidence that trudeau attempted to benefit his family members. It's fine if you think the civil service made a mistake recommending WE. It's fine if you think trudeau and morneau should have recused themselves from the cabinet meeting (as I do, although the top civil servant thinks this isn't realistic). But on the evidence currently presented in public we are not even remotely close to "most corrupt" or trying to benefit is family or any of your other nonsense.

I have already said Trudeau will get an ethics violation but has covered his tracks well. Morneau on the other hand may have committed a criminal act. The reality that Justin will not ask for Morneau's resignation clearly shows he endorses the actions. I pointed out the Liberals forced Harper to ask for the resignation of someone over a $24 glass of OJ. Yet free Luxury vacations are OK.

As for WE & ME or whatever # company they are using Corporate Canada is running from them as fast as they can . Though they should be OK with 48 million in Toronto Real Estate

I am sure this deal is on the up & up as well

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ce-aid-program



Though I have to change one of my accusations on the Trudeau government I said they were not transparent. I was wrong they are transparently corrupt.

Ultimately the voters will decide and sadly I still think he wins as everyone compares the job he does to Trump

Lol, called it. No point being early if your app doesn't ****ing work and nobody is going to download it. Hopefully the damage done by making people disillusioned with the process will be minor when it switches to the later, but superior, federal app

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-...-app-1.5057373

Only 5% of Albertan's signed up for it and Trudeau's government was blocking
the required fix to it as they wanted everyone to use the national app.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...cetogether-app


Does it even work outside of Ontario yet?

Reality is most folks are not going to trust the government on a app like this in Canada

Then most folks are ****ing morons. This isn't hard. The Apple-Google tech is extensively documented, you have to just be completely uninformed or a nutjob to not "trust" this. The whole point of the federal app is that it ONLY informs individuals, it doesn't send the information to Ahealth agencies like the alberta app is. You can debate the merits of the privacy/efficiacy trade-off but the federal one is definitely the more trust worthy structure. They rushed out a badly designed app that hasn't worked on iphones since day 1, it was an embarassment, nobody in alberta even downloaded it, and it is time to move on to the vastly superior federal app.

Well in 60 days you come back and tell me about how well this app is doing and how many folks have signed up. Currently a million have downloaded it. Plus does it even work outside of Ontario

Funny but accurate take on WE

https://youtu.be/h_bbGm4dOZw

Three things every CDN knows is true

1. Summer goes by way too fast
2. The Leafs will always choke
3. Justin Trudeau will always be corrupt

yeah yeah the Oilers Suck

is it just me, or have the conservatives loltastically failed to gain any sort of attention on their leadership race? I dunno maybe they are just spamming supporter's mailboxes or something and those people are engaged, but we are down to the wire and polievre is getting more media time than everyone else put together.

It's just you.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. Pick a leader

Reality is though Justin Trudeau may be the first minority government to go the full term. NDP are so badly in debt, green party has a new leader and I have no clue whom it is. The bloc had their best election ever.

Unless Justin calls an election it may be difficult to topple him.

Doesn't seem to be just me: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chr...llot-1.5682574

I think what's going on is that establishment conservatives - the types who are on party lists and getting emails and phone calls - they might be engaged, but nobody else is and the media is barely covering it.

Keep in mind you have the WE scandal going on as well and new revelations happening. This put Pierre in the spotlight as he asks most of the questions. Scheer had his last commons appearance and soon the new leader will be out.

Bloc called for Trudeau, Morneau and Trudeaus assistant to resign or they will go for a non confidence vote. Its clear that Trudeau could shoot someone on Bloor Street and Morneau could hide the body and his assistant destroy the evidence and the NDP & Greens never going for a non confidence which leaves the bloc and conservatives a few votes short.

Mark my words the crooked Trudeau has more friends and family to give sweet government sole source contracts out and will do a full term.

Remember the other day when you were super impressed by Doug Ford's folksy-mad empty talk at Trump on the aluminum tarrifs (while Trudeau's team was busy delivering day 1 action)? Notice how you didn't cite the hot take from any of the four front runners? Tbh, I didn't even see their hot takes published in the media. I don't think anyone remotely cared what they had to say. Also notice how noone seems to share their takes on the WE scandal either? Or the Pandemic Response? Like yes, I agree there are lots of super big issues going on out there, WE is one, and this is taking up a lot of the oxygen, but they have consistently failed to insert themselves into those conversations. Or maybe Canadians broadly don't give a **** who leads the conservatives.


Also Mr. Hyperbole, let's be abundantly clear that giving government contracts to friends and family isn't what happened in even the most extreme of conservative fantasy conspiracy theories. There is currently ZERO evidence that trudeau tried to force through the WE deal in any way. There is currently ZERO evidence that contradicts what every single political and nonpolitical staffer from the PMO or civil service has said thus far: that the deal originated with the civil service. I agree he should have recused himself to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. But there is no need to be hyperbolic, it only hurts your argument.

Ok I don't mean to be flogging a dead horse here, but I happened to notice #trudeauresignNOW trending on cdn twitter and so I read through the timeline for a few minutes. There are lots and lots of quotes from conservatives. Just not the four trying to become the next PM. This is super strange how invisible this is.