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05-23-2024 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Well, you may believe that, but I still haven't heard anyone expressing that opinion, and I would like to think that not all republican voters secretly believe it.

I don't read the climate thread, but I see you bringing up Marxism often.
They do because gop wink to white supremacists, like democrats wink to Marxists.

If someone truly believe white supremacy was worse than Marxism he couldn't vote gop.

And btw there is no need to keep it secret, it's very easy to say white supremacy is bad but Marxism is a lot worse.

Here I brought up Marxism because I got banned while addressing Marxist opinions and using strong words against them, and this is the thread where we discuss mod efforts. No other reason why I brought it up. Then ofc you guys keep asking questions and making claims and I answer.
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05-23-2024 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
No you need to eradicate the selfish, when "reeducation" doesn't work, to have communism. Or at the very least keep beating them down every year in perpetuity.

Which is why the totality of the attempts at establishing Marxism required massive state violence not only one time for the revolution, but to keep things communist.

You know the whole idea that counter revolutionary are a constant threat and so on (and it's true, except it's most people basic biological premises, which is what Marxism denies)
No one has ever attempted to eradicate the selfish, as that would mean eradicating everyone.

And while that is what happened, foolish idealists do not believe it would be necessary.

Again, if you must believe in constant state violence to be considered a Marxist, then there are almost no Marxists in the world, and I have certainly never known of any.

I'm sure there are a good number of people who call themselves Marxists without supporting that. You are really using a different definition of Marxism than is commonly understood, at least by people in the US.
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05-23-2024 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
No one has ever attempted to eradicate the selfish, as that would mean eradicating everyone.

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Whole point is they deny it's everyone, but kill or send to camp a whole bunch of people to "re educate " them, and it happened a lot of times.
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05-23-2024 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
They do because gop wink to white supremacists, like democrats wink to Marxists.

If someone truly believe white supremacy was worse than Marxism he couldn't vote gop.

And btw there is no need to keep it secret, it's very easy to say white supremacy is bad but Marxism is a lot worse.

Here I brought up Marxism because I got banned while addressing Marxist opinions and using strong words against them, and this is the thread where we discuss mod efforts. No other reason why I brought it up. Then ofc you guys keep asking questions and making claims and I answer.
I think that both most democratic and most republican voters simply don't consider the 'winks' to be important, as they know that neither system has any chance of coming to be in the US.

I understand why you brought up Marxism here. I don't think it is productive to bring it up in the I/P thread, in the Biden and Trump threads, in the SC thread. Those are the only other ones I regularly read, yet I feel like I read your rants about the evils of Marxism regularly.

I'm done arguing this point though. Just wanted you to know that you aren't doing yourself any favors with those rants, or especially with your comparisons to white supremacy. It just makes some people think you are a white supremacist, and everyone take the rest of your opinions less seriously.
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05-23-2024 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob

I understand why you brought up Marxism here. I don't think it is productive to bring it up in the I/P thread, in the Biden and Trump threads, in the SC thread. Those are the only other ones I regularly read, yet I feel like I read your rants about the evils of Marxism regularly.
I'm done arguing this point though. Just wanted you to know that you aren't doing yourself any favors with those rants, or especially with your comparisons to white supremacy. It just makes some people think you are a white supremacist, and everyone take the rest of your opinions less seriously.

Luciom, take this from somebody that likes most of your posts,even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them. Chill is 100% right here, If you make a post that is 95% on the money, and 5% of the post is insanity, the 5% wins out and your entire point is discredited. I see you constantly attacked around here, and your posts this morning are a good illustration as to why. As Chillrob correctly points out, even if you aren't defending white supremacy, it sure looks like you are at times and it discredits not only the subject argument, but it discredits you as a poster in all threads.

I think you do bring up a lot of good points around here, so I am not happy when I see you get banned for stuff that could have easily been avoided. Just my $.02
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05-23-2024 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
Luciom, take this from somebody that likes most of your posts,even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them. Chill is 100% right here, If you make a post that is 95% on the money, and 5% of the post is insanity, the 5% wins out and your entire point is discredited. I see you constantly attacked around here, and your posts this morning are a good illustration as to why. As Chillrob correctly points out, even if you aren't defending white supremacy, it sure looks like you are at times and it discredits not only the subject argument, but it discredits you as a poster in all threads.

I think you do bring up a lot of good points around here, so I am not happy when I see you get banned for stuff that could have easily been avoided. Just my $.02
Ok but i got banned because of the words i used to comment on what i perceive as a marxist opinion. I had no idea i couldn't use strong negative words for opinions i despise
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05-23-2024 , 10:05 AM
Lucious, I don't believe your opinions are this dumb.*




*See how I called you dumb without calling you dumb?
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05-23-2024 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
They do because gop wink to white supremacists, like democrats wink to Marxists.
lol this is nonsense. Dems abhor Marxism and would much prefer the GOP .
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05-23-2024 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
You are making the ultimate "i can sell you the tower bridge" equivalence if you even imply that marxism is anything but evil even in actual intent.

White supremacists claim non whites would gain by living elsewhere as well, does that matter in the slightest?

It's incredible that you think you can treat an ideology differently depending on what they pretend to be pursuing, and not exclusively by looking at what they actually do.


It's like saying "look , NK is democratic" because it's called " Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

If anything, an ideology that is trasparent in it's intent is LESS DANGEROUS because people can more easily correctly identify it as nefarious. This is part of what makes marxism worse than every other ideology , the pretense it's "for the good of the masses".
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Originally Posted by Luciom
They do because gop wink to white supremacists, like democrats wink to Marxists.

If someone truly believe white supremacy was worse than Marxism he couldn't vote gop.

And btw there is no need to keep it secret, it's very easy to say white supremacy is bad but Marxism is a lot worse.

Here I brought up Marxism because I got banned while addressing Marxist opinions and using strong words against them, and this is the thread where we discuss mod efforts. No other reason why I brought it up. Then ofc you guys keep asking questions and making claims and I answer.


Jfc ….

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05-23-2024 , 03:04 PM
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Which posters put up pictures of dead Israelis after being told not to do so? And continued the name calling they were specifically told not to do?

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If the mods here were Palestinian, no one who was not a male practicing Muslim would be allowed to post, and if anyone questioned the orthodox opinions they would be executed.
This is strongly bigoted imo.
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05-23-2024 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by L0LWAT
We should ban people who post white supremacist ideology disguised as a hypothetical question to dance around the rules. Especially when it occurs tens of times per day. It seems like we are encouraging this behaviour by allowing it.
I agree
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but not marxists right? because reasons?

I use white supremacy as an example because it generates particular disgust in people like you, so you can understand what i feel when i read marxist opinions.

The questions stands, do you believe forum rules don't allow you to describe white supremacist opinions as disgusting, embarassing, shitty? because it's either you can never do that about any opinion, or you can always do for any opinion
Man what a response. It’s interesting to see that white fascism hasn’t left Italy.

Imagine if the US army had treated Italy the way Israel treats Palestine.
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05-23-2024 , 03:13 PM
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I think a lot of people think Marxism is worse than white supremacy, including anyone who votes gop over democrats.

The guy I commented to in the climate thread used Marxist 101 framing of the issue
I think this is a reflection of you more than anything. There is no way that everyone who votes gop thinks a political ideology which isn’t inherently evil is worse than an inherently evil racial ideology. Also democrats winking at commies is ridiculous. Actual hard lefties aren’t voting democrat and consider them only slightly more redeemable than republicans. You’ve had enough contact with Victor to know that.
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05-23-2024 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubble_Balls
I think this is a reflection of you more than anything. There is no way that everyone who votes gop thinks a political ideology which isn’t inherently evil is worse than an inherently evil racial ideology. Also democrats winking at commies is ridiculous. Actual hard lefties aren’t voting democrat and consider them only slightly more redeemable than republicans. You’ve had enough contact with Victor to know that.
I never met anyone in my life who voted right, who didn't consider Marxism inherently evil. Some might have claimed that Marxism was dead already so it was better to focus on other stuff , but the condemnation of Marxism as the actual absolute evil was universal in all my contact with people voting right, in various countries.

Granted, I am talking mostly about Italy, Brazil and the USA. Maybe in (dunno) Sweden or Germany it's different.

Democrats wink at commies, it's full of actual commies in universities. All DEI is pure Marxism, all gender activism is pure Marxism, most radical environmentalism is marxism
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05-23-2024 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I never met anyone in my life who voted right, who didn't consider Marxism inherently evil. Some might have claimed that Marxism was dead already so it was better to focus on other stuff , but the condemnation of Marxism as the actual absolute evil was universal in all my contact with people voting right, in various countries.

Granted, I am talking mostly about Italy, Brazil and the USA. Maybe in (dunno) Sweden or Germany it's different.

Democrats wink at commies, it's full of actual commies in universities. All DEI is pure Marxism, all gender activism is pure Marxism, most radical environmentalism is marxism
Words have meanings as I think you’ve pointed out before. You can’t just assign Marxism to any progressive cause. I don’t doubt your experiences but you seem to have opinions that are quite far to the right. I don’t think that’s representative of all gop voters. I’ve worked with quite a few moderate republicans and I’d be shocked if they placed white supremacy below Marxist ideology. I think you’ve also forgotten there are many non-white republicans who probably rank white supremacy more seriously.
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05-23-2024 , 03:32 PM
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I agree


Man what a response. It’s interesting to see that white fascism hasn’t left Italy.

Imagine if the US army had treated Italy the way Israel treats Palestine.
We still have the bomb shelters in my city where my grandparents hid during the many months of actual carpet bombing.

And you know in several cities Italian actually helped the Americans, how many Palestinians told Israeli where Hamas is?
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05-23-2024 , 03:32 PM
Been in college like 10 years of my life. Dont think I ever met a communist. Maybe once but I dunno.


Too bad about your grandparents.
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05-23-2024 , 03:36 PM
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Words have meanings as I think you’ve pointed out before. You can’t just assign Marxism to any progressive cause. I don’t doubt your experiences but you seem to have opinions that are quite far to the right. I don’t think that’s representative of all gop voters. I’ve worked with quite a few moderate republicans and I’d be shocked if they placed white supremacy below Marxist ideology. I think you’ve also forgotten there are many non-white republicans who probably rank white supremacy more seriously.
Pretty sure most cuban, Chinese, vietnamite, venezuelan americans and so on lol at the notion of white supremacy being a great evil or threat while they don't for Marxism.

You realize for example than Bolsonaro got a lot of votes from non whites right?

You realize this was the meme?



I don't assign Marxism where it doesn't belong. Pro abortionism isn't Marxism. Open bordering isn't Marxism. Maternity leave isn't Marxism. Legal cannabis isn't Marxism. And so on.

What I listed above is
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05-23-2024 , 03:53 PM
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Good lord, that's some bigoted ****.

yeah but you're allowed to be super racist toward muslims here. this forum and site fully supports that. many such cases
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05-23-2024 , 04:27 PM
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yeah but you're allowed to be super racist toward muslims here. this forum and site fully supports that. many such cases
With Browser's retirement, we might need updated guidance on whether racist drivel against Palestinians is still okay or not.
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05-23-2024 , 04:42 PM
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If the mods here were Palestinian, no one who was not a male practicing Muslim would be allowed to post, and if anyone questioned the orthodox opinions they would be executed.
Chillrob, as others have aptly pointed out, this is a wildly bigoted post that wrongly perpetuates racist tropes and myths regarding the Palestinian people and Muslims et al.

I have issued you an official warning. Further posts of this nature will be moderated with temp bans. Thank you.
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05-23-2024 , 04:48 PM
I gotta ask. Why was this allowed to go on for so long? These racist posts by these posters are not a new thing. Did the other mods not care or they weren’t aware? What has changed?
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05-23-2024 , 05:48 PM
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I gotta ask. Why was this allowed to go on for so long? These racist posts by these posters are not a new thing. Did the other mods not care or they weren’t aware? What has changed?
Different kingdoms for different kings .
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05-23-2024 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Start reporting them.
Stop reporting them. These threads remind me of an NBA game the way they are officiated.

Let em play!
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05-23-2024 , 06:39 PM
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I gotta ask. Why was this allowed to go on for so long? These racist posts by these posters are not a new thing. Did the other mods not care or they weren’t aware? What has changed?
There's only so much time in a day.
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05-23-2024 , 06:58 PM
In the I/P thread, provided you were pro Palestinian, you could say "Pakistan is run by terrorists"

If someone is ok explaining the difference there, it'll keep me from blowing my face off in that thread.

If I said "Gaza is run by terrorists" I don't think I'd fair super well (probably be on timeout). But that's gotta be a little closer to the truth than Pakistan right about now.
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