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05-25-2020 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I read UP pretty regularly and I don't recall seeing criticism of WaPo over there. Might have missed it obvs, but it's definitely not a regular thing if that's what you're suggesting.
NYT gets more hate than WaPO-- and they'll throw NPR into the mix as well.
But you're right. It's not regular but the disillusionment with the media does seem to be happening more often.
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05-25-2020 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I've asked TD to pick a topic of disagreement. I've asked Monte to pick a topic of disagreement. And now I'll ask you to pick one.
Well, we strongly disagreed on the types of pictures you should be allowed to post here, and that led to you having some emotional issues and talking about self bans, and my getting a warning to go easier on you, so I am going with the flow at this point.

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Again--my side is winning. Even the people at Unstuck now understand that the media is trash. They lol at the NYT and WaPO. That was not the case 10 years ago. Or even 5 years ago. More and more people are awake to the corporate controlled nature of politics and the world. It's now an argument about the extent of it.
See, here is the thing, I simply disagree with your whole approach. "My side is winning" assumes that sides exist in the way you believe them to exist. I do not agree with you on that, nor nearly all of your constructs you use in that regard, hence you get a lot of "nah" from me. You create worlds to back your narratives, and those narratives include sides, and "we all agree on blah blah," and whataboutyouisms etc. etc. I disagree with your entire process, so because of that I will not get muddled within it.

When I do ask you questions about your culture, you generally avoid answering them for a similar reason. You do not like the process I am using, framing the discussion in a way that has nothing to do with how you want to talk about stuff. Once in a while you will dabble, and sometimes I ask genuine questions (like the 5g curiosity) that can lead to a polite discussion (if it does not get nuked). However, as an example I asked you to list your top 10 conspiracies you think of all-time within the conspiracy culture, and you refuse to do that, because you know that is my narrative at work, where a list such as that trivializes them (though I am genuinely curious how you would rank them for what it is worth) and all of that is fine. You will find plenty of people here to debate with you in your worlds, that is until one day when this forum just shuts down, at which point you will find others somewhere.

All the best.
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05-25-2020 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I've asked TD to pick a topic of disagreement. I've asked Monte to pick a topic of disagreement. And now I'll ask you to pick one.
What in the world are you talking about. I've debated any number of things with you over the last year. It's always a road to nowhere. Now you are telling me that, unless I am willing to pick yet another topic and talk you about it for five yours, that means you are "winning." No thanks. I'm sure I'll get sucked into another nonsensical debate eventually, but I don't see any reason to jump when you say jump.

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Again--my side is winning. Even the people at Unstuck now understand that the media is trash. They lol at the NYT and WaPO. That was not the case 10 years ago. Or even 5 years ago. More and more people are awake to the corporate controlled nature of politics and the world. It's now an argument about the extent of it.
As you well know, the people at Unstuck are mad at the media for a very different reason than you are. If the NYT and the WaPo consistently championed Bernie and flamed everyone else, that would satisfy most of the posters at Unstuck.
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05-25-2020 , 05:37 PM
Hey guys my temp ban ended early.

Thank you luckbox for defending me!

Guys the media has never and will never lie. Everything the msm says is gospel and you shouldn’t question any of it. Treat it like a religion and have faith that the people in charge wouldn’t lie to you.

Remember do as you’re told and work hard for that money. You are not a slave and you are free to do whatever you want.

All the best
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05-25-2020 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Guys the media has never and will never lie. Everything the msm says is gospel and you shouldn’t question any of it. Treat it like a religion and have faith that the people in charge wouldn’t lie to you.
I know this will annoy you, as you will not believe me, but I googled MSM (because honestly, no idea what it meant), and I got links to an arthritis medication.

What do you guys have against arthritis medications!

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Remember do as you’re told and work hard for that money. You are not a slave and you are free to do whatever you want.
Cool. Just be careful if you live near the edge of the planet. By the way, why have none of those people posted pictures, I assume they would be impressive to see!

Anyways, welcome back, and remember this is a nice safe space for you, until it goes away one day. Also, come back to the riggie thread, as I loved your beach whatever. Riggies hated and ignored it, but I think people like you and Lucky could add a fun dimension to that thread by showing people who whine about new player boomswitches what they can become if they work hard one day. They too may hate arthritis medications!

All the best.
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05-25-2020 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
What in the world are you talking about. I've debated any number of things with you over the last year. It's always a road to nowhere. Now you are telling me that, unless I am willing to pick yet another topic and talk you about it for five yours, that means you are "winning." No thanks. I'm sure I'll get sucked into another nonsensical debate eventually, but I don't see any reason to jump when you say jump.







As you well know, the people at Unstuck are mad at the media for a very different reason than you are. If the NYT and the WaPo consistently championed Bernie and flamed everyone else, that would satisfy most of the posters at Unstuck.
Even those guys are smart enough to know that if that happened something would be rotten. I hope....maybe.
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05-26-2020 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I know this will annoy you, as you will not believe me, but I googled MSM (because honestly, no idea what it meant), and I got links to an arthritis medication.



What do you guys have against arthritis medications!

I had to check this for myself, and it's actually sort of amazing. Google has no hits in the top searches for msm in the traditional sense, although a search of the COCA reveals that it is in common use with over 3k results.
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05-26-2020 , 06:42 AM
Nah. Google absolutely has hits for it in the traditional sense. It is a drug used for arthritis. Here is the top link


https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-s...es-and-risks#1

Kind of shows what I was saying about your whole assume your fantasy world is "traditional" schtick in a nutshell, and why the best approach when you try to do that is to dismiss it and move on.

In that regard, what do you think the top 10 conspiracies are historically. Genuinely curious, and we both agree that you like to discuss these matters within this safe space, so let me know what you think. Thanks!

All the best.
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05-26-2020 , 06:52 AM
The COCA is a better index of how words (and acronyms in this case) are used. Not a single person here would think msm refers to an arthritis drug.
Feel free to sample random/non-politics poster people in your life. Curious about the results.

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05-26-2020 , 07:09 AM
Nah. Coca Cola is what you will selectively use to justify the artificial world constructs you like others to participate in. Your fantasy world - you can do the samplig as you like, though most humans if you asked would have no idea what MSM means, and after they google it would see it is a drug for arthritis. People who actually take the drug likely would know what it is, and apparently it is also a dietary supplement so those who use it for that purpose would also know. What percentage of humans that is? No idea, but you can go sample if you like.

Anyway, you forgot to do the top 10 list. I addressed your comment, so it seems fair you address mine, at least by explaining why you do not want to answer it. If this does upset you, I understand and let me know and I will back off as per the rules of this forum. We do not want people rushing to self ban again. Safe space and all. Thanks!

All the best.
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05-26-2020 , 07:18 AM
The COCA is the Corpus of Contemporary American English. It's a 1.1 billion word sample. I use it regularly and not selectively.
The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) is the only large, genre-balanced corpus of American English. COCA is probably the most widely-used corpus of English, and it is related to many other corpora of English that we have created, which offer unparalleled insight into variation in English.

The corpus contains more than one billion words of text (20 million words each year 1990-2019) from eight genres: spoken, fiction, popular magazines, newspapers, academic texts, and (with the update in March 2020): TV and Movies subtitles, blogs, and other web pages.
I didn't see MSM used as arthritis medicine at all when searching it for "msm" although there probably are a few examples.
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05-26-2020 , 07:31 AM
I do not question your love for Coca Cola, or your disdain of arthritis medications.

Anyway, I will assume you will not post a top 10 conspiracy list at this point, which is a shame, as that would be genuinely interesting to see, but given that you continue to avoid that request, and pretend you do not see it - no real need to ask it any more. Safe spaces etc.

All the best.
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05-26-2020 , 07:34 AM
I might post one later. I've actually been walking the dog during this whole discussion so a detailed list hasn't been an option.
Here's a pic posted without permission.
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05-26-2020 , 07:35 AM
Is that the hound of the Baskervilles?
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05-26-2020 , 07:38 AM
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Is that the hound of the Baskervilles?
He's a husky mix. Not sure at all what he's mixed with but pretty far from purebred.
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05-26-2020 , 07:48 AM
Posting a picture of a dog without permission is probably fine, though I can think of some cases where it would not be (ie: posting one of a celebrity animal for the purpose of earning funds without getting consent).

Posting pictures of kids without permission likely falls in a different category, but perhaps you were not aware of that, so you can do polling on that along with the MSM questions, and see what the general public thinks, and post all your polling results here later on, likely after you do that top 10 list.

All the best.
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05-26-2020 , 09:39 AM
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In that regard, what do you think the top 10 conspiracies are historically. Genuinely curious, and we both agree that you like to discuss these matters within this safe space, so let me know what you think. Thanks!

All the best.
He is going to say that it doesn't make sense to have "favorite" conspiracy theories any more than it makes sense to prefer gravity to photosynthesis. I'll guess that the ten conspiracy theories he has spent the most time discussing and thinking about are:
  • JFK
  • 9-11
  • Sandy Hook
  • General, catch-all media/celebrity psy-ops (including all the hand sign stuff)
  • Epstein
  • COVID
  • NWO or some other secret globalist group is in charge
  • Something related to Obama's parentage (probably not straight birtherism)
  • Something related to specific diseases other than COVID being deliberately released by the government
  • Targeted individuals
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05-26-2020 , 09:50 AM
Nah, he barely talked about Covid the first few months of this year. Was more a Portland thing, and while I assume that Portland whatever would not make any top 10 list (even in the actual city of Portland), his obsession about that in December - March eliminates Covid being in his top 10 list as well. I would also not yet put it on an overall top 10 list, though by next year it very well could be once the conspiracy universe has time to work on their creations.

I would assume his personal top 10 list would differ quite a bit from the conventional conspiracy top 10 list, because he has to be quirky and keep it real etc etc. The arthritis drug debate has to be top 10 for sure.
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05-26-2020 , 10:20 AM
What is your favorite conspiracy theory Rococo?


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In that regard, what do you think the top 10 conspiracies are historically. .
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He is going to say that it doesn't make sense to have "favorite" conspiracy theories
Top ten historically is something that can be evaluated semi-objectively. "Favorites" obviously isn't.

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05-26-2020 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What is your favorite conspiracy theory Rococo?
I personally am a big fan of the satanic hand symbol conspiracy.
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05-26-2020 , 10:33 AM
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I personally am a big fan of the satanic hand symbol conspiracy.
I think everyone is aware of that at this point.
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05-26-2020 , 10:39 AM
You know that I believe Lizard People always add a sense of drama and flair to a belief structure.

Now that a couple of us told you our favorite one, how about you at least say what your favorite specific one would be. Try to not be general and vague, and I say that knowing you will likely be general and vague, and perhaps reply to the question with a question, because - quirky, keeping it real, whataboutyourhelicoperisms etc. etc.

All the best.
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05-26-2020 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
You know that I believe Lizard People always add a sense of drama and flair to a belief structure.



Now that a couple of us told you our favorite one, how about you at least say what your favorite specific one would be. Try to not be general and vague, and I say that knowing you will likely be general and vague, and perhaps reply to the question with a question, because - quirky, keeping it real, whataboutyourhelicoperisms etc. etc.



All the best.
One that has never been discussed that is also one of the craziest ones there is is called the Mandela effect. Can google about it. The stuff about Mandela specifically doesn't apply to me but some of the other ones do.
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05-26-2020 , 10:44 AM
Well, at least this time a google search showed up what you are talking about, so no dry mouth side effects with this one.

Appreciate the actual, specific answer. I cannot say I will look into it past the google search, but it definitely looks like weird stuff, and apparently a movie with that name is being made?

Lots of conspiracy stuff is fringe, even within the fringe community - so staying with this one - how "out there" is this considered? I would assume 9/11 is about as "mainstream" as it gets, and the urine thing people were talking about, whatever that is, is pretty far out there, so is this closer to 9/11 or urine? Thanks!

All the best.
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05-26-2020 , 10:49 AM
It's pretty far out there
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