Of course you do. Christ man I'm one of the -few- people around here that defends you. Whatever.

Trust me Wet work-- you're one of my preferred posters because I feel like you're one of the few people here who "get it". If I give you a hard time about the whatabouting because ultimately this isn't a team sport. But you're constantly trying to make it so by looking for examples of hypocrisy. But everyone is a hypocrite. Me too even as you pointed out with me driving on roads and living in society. But constantly pointing it all out only takes us so far.

Addressing the first bolded: there is so much conflicting information and misinformation about corona that it is impossible to say whether a vaccine is important for public health--and I definitely never claimed that I thought it would be.
As for my own reasons for not wanting one: it's because it seems clear that something is going on. (What it is ain't exactly clear). And that agendas are "happening". It's the whole 'history being made to happen thing'. And whatever that is I want no part of it. Obviously I didn't/don't feel that way about the yellow fever vaccine even though it was being given away for free in an airport clinic.

Sounds like you are pitching that you have your own quirky belief structures, but perhaps you can come up with an expression or title that reflects those beliefs that would also appeal to the pure anti-vaxxers, who would be your biggest allies in this fight against the spooly, sinister forces at work. That would help build your client base of fellow believers, and would also show why marketing should be an important part of the conspiracy guy's catalog of skills.

Unfortunately "The Happening" is already taken (and I would hope even you regard that as a horrid film), but give it some thought and see what you come up with in this area. No helicopters please.

All the best.

Doesn't really seem too quirky. It's just a few basic questions really.
1) Is something happening?
2) Is it being made to happen?
3) Do you want to be a part of it?
We can all agree the answer to #1 is yes, and as long as #2 is also yes then "no" to #3 follows pretty naturally.
Haven't seen The Happening and not really a big fan of horror films. Can't think of any I enjoy.

1) Nah. Your imagination at play.
2) Nah. Your imagination at play.
3) There is no it.

Now, you can imagine that everyone will agree with you, and suggest that, but you still hit the huge wall of "heh, nah." The way someone of your kind can help get around that is by marketing your beliefs in a way that is catchy and gets attention.

Look at how some pretty awful products have been marketed over the years to get people to drink carbonated acid and inhale a narcotic that kills them. Sad part is, no real conspiracy was even needed for that stuff, and that tends to be what human behavior is in the end.

Now, the problem someone of your kind faces is that you agreed that the ability to market your beliefs is hindered greatly by your culture's complete lack of creativity in how they do it, as you could not come up with any good example from 1970+, so this was an actual agreement, not me simply saying "we all agree" as you are inclined to do when few people agree with you. Use this opportunity to try to create a way to pitch your idea in a more interesting way, and then you can see if that generates any results for you. It has to be a lot better than talking about helicopters and whataboutyouisms or whatever that word you constantly use that literally is a cure for insomnia.

As for the movie "The Happening," it is hardly a horror movie, it is just a bad movie, and not even a so bad it is good movie. However, there is a character in it that has a whole theory on hot dogs you would like and I expect you would regard him as a bit of a kindred spirit.

As for vaccine conspiracies, I am actually surprised you have not latched onto that whole higher up people at some of these companies that are testing vaccine with good initial results making a lot of money selling shares in their companies after the results were announced. They say it was all automated trades based on pricing set long ago, but someone like you would never believe that, so why not follow the money and do some investigative work there, as unlike the whatever sinister deep state Bill Gates injecting helicopters things is just a fringe dead end.

All the best.

Well something is definitely happening. Answering no there wasn't really meant to be an option. The question is is there an agenda behind it.

Nah. You just believe something is "happening," a belief you will cling to, even if nothing "happens." Not like you ever predict anything specific . Anyway, you are free to believe whatever you like, even that the trees are the entities responsible if you prefer, but the schtick you often do of trying to bring everyone on board via assumption of collective agreement, and "choices" that hardly list all options is kind of unimpressive.

You really need to market yourself and your beliefs better, so hopefully this chat has helped educate you on that part of your industry. You can decide to agree on that or not .

All the best.

Luckbox, can I come and play in your thread? It seems like brain****ery of the highest calibre, which is something I feel I would enjoy very much.

By all means. This thread is property of 2p2 publishing and I have no right to exclude anyone. But since it has my name on it I only ask that people try to not troll too too much.
This thread was actually originally spun off from the Trump thread and WN titled it this way, with the original discussion being quite similar to some of the points that I've tried to make in the new Trump vs CNN thread. But WN seems to mostly let this thread be as long as it isn't a "dumping ground for conspiracy discussion". For that we have to use the Epstein thread.

Ok, so what's the plat du jour? What are we conspiricising about discussing today?

On the plate for today and perhaps for the long term future is corona and just what that pesky ruling elite has planned for it in terms of mandatory vaccinations, with a side of extra crispy 5G.

Jesus. Don't encourage the guy. You'll regret it, believe me.

You will never get rid of him.

Luckbox, I feel joe6pack is stalking me everywhere I go. I am very uncomfortable now. I am going to put him ignore, please don't ever quote him, as if I even see his name I might need to hit the fainting couch.

Cool. So, is it a given ITT that Gates kicked off the 'rona Kingsman style, and is spreading it via 5G? I just need to get caught up and then I'll let you know my thoughts.

That's irrelevant. It would still be hilarious.

Nah. I like d2_e4. Even if he's a troll then he's an intelligent troll and those are fine.

I like him as well, but he is still working on how to effectively debate the colorful variety of humans here. The thread he started here recently was kind of a mess, but no shame in trying. Poor fake Joe, getting all whiny today. Looks like he can use a safe space.


I mean this when I say it - I have literally no idea what this 5G conspiracy is about, and I am asking this not in the way that annoys you or Billy or William or Bill or I'm Just a Bill or any variation - I am curious what the general conspiracy angle is it for that product, and did one similarly exist for any earlier equivalent technologies? I can probably google it, but meh, more fun hearing from believers.

Also, lost in the shuffle was when I asked you why you and the cast of Bills did not jump on the company management making huge $$$ selling their stock shares after favorable vaccine trial results were announced. I would think there might be something actually there - so why the total silence on that topic? I saw that and genuinely wondered if that was just a coincidence at first, and yet - no conspiracy people to be found talking about it. They are busy talking about implanted mind control helicopters. Just trying to get a better feel for how your culture works in a safe and comforting manner. Thanks!

All the best.

That's debatable. There's definitely some dunning-kreuger in the mix.

It really is deliciously ironic how you fail to spell the words you use to insult others' intelligence. Remember when you said "the intelligensia just got here"? Oh, how we laughed.

It's "Dunning-Kruger", genius.

Meh, it wasn't the best. I got out of it what I put in.

I'm pretty skeptical of the 5G/corona claims but admittedly haven't looked much into it. It seems like when corona first became thing, the 5g connection was intentionally pushed as a red herring. This doesn't mean that there can't be concerns about 5g independent of corona-- there definitely can be but I'm weak on those as well. The claims that I've seen though attempting to make a connection argue that the places where corona is hitting the hardest also have a lot of 5g towers.

Run-of-the-mill profiteering doesn't quite make the cut for the sort of conspiritarding that interests me. That sort of stuff is to be expected and everyone knows the healthcare industry has no shortage of unsavory types.
I'm not aware of any conspiracy ideas surrounding 4g btw.

Interesting. So the thought is the technology is creating this or something, and I assume the belief that is intentional for some evil purposes. I am not attributing these ideas to to you. I assume the other guy believes in this whatever, but what is typically the origin of a conspiracy like this, ie: is it usually part of some bigger dark picture, and do conspiracy people actually argue about how things should fit into the overall dark pictures at times, or is there a generally accepted unified conspiracy theory among the lifers?


That is a shame, because while this may very well be a case where the people had no idea they even sold their shares ( I suspect that is likely what happened) - this is an area where some basic human behavior happens that is not always particularly noble. Those Senators and members of Congress selling stocks early this year definitely fall in that category, and while I tend to agree that is also not a "conspiracy" in a generally accepted definition, I do wonder if people in your world can better use real examples of that type of behavior to push your whatever narratives. When you ignore them, it kind of marginalizes your manifestos as well, if that also makes sense, at least from my perspective.

All the best.

But correlation issues aside: How is this physiologically supposed to work anyway?

This I don't know-- the idea is that due to the frequencies involved, 5g interferes with cell function in some sort of way that makes people sick and/or that the frequencies are capable of being altered in a way that does so.