The post above is kind of long, so here is a summary:

He basically admits this.

I won't nitpick "dumb" but I think the better definition is that he is 'naive, overly trusting and gets caught up in resumes of those he speaks to and is not of high intellect'.

I would say dumb is not correct as anyone who has succeeded to the level he has in every career arena he has entered in to, and making hundreds of millions of dollars, is not really dumb imo. Dumb people typically lack the situational awareness to succeed short of stumbling thru Forrest Gump style, in one instance.

He succeeded as a Stand Up comedian (not my style at all) , not at the very top levels but certainly beyond what 90% of all comedians do.
He succeeded in the TV medium saying he never had a single audition early in his career where he did not get the job. Never getting turned down.
He succeeded as an MMA analyst as one of the faces of the biggest and most successful org in that sport.
And then he succeeded as a podcaster, being one of the most influential people in creating this category of long form interview for popular consumption.

All that said, you put anyone in front of Joe who is speaking to an error he has no formed view in and who has deep experience and resume, and Joe seems to get awestruck at their accomplishments, especially if they speak real well. He then extends them great trust in what they tell him and is easily convinced what they just said is true and accurate. That is until he sits with the next person with a good resume.

he is almost child like in his uptake and trust.

He has been pretty consistent in his criticisms of Trump and his policies all thru Trump's years in power.

I hope people see how easy e_d lies when he knows he is wrong and how much like uke he is in that regard.

I have quoted so many articles and opinions from groups left and right, and stated my own view many times and NEVER seen anyone saying it is "crazy to call Rogan anything but liberal'.

That narrative seems to be 100% a lie. One crafted because the true position is not one e_d can critique.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, i have seen defines rogan as having views on both sides (myself included) and who cannot solely be called a rightie. it is simply a question of where on the spectrum each person would peg him.

It is only the people who try to define him a rightie who are making it an absolute position.

This is such a garbage post. Pure bile that drives a person to just say 'down is up' because they don't like a person.

it is fine not to like Rogan, but to say the opposite of what is true in most instances just because you hate him is irrational and silly.

The areas Rogan pushes back the most on, are in what would be called the Social Justice areas. I think he speaks about those issues more than any other in all of his years of podcasting outside the last couple when Covid became his hot topic and very early on when it is was more martial arts focused.

But a vast amount of his content is on topics of 'Race', 'Policing', 'Military', 'Drugs', 'Political Power and Structures' and in all those areas if his guests state any typical right leaning talking points ('oh POC just need to pull up their bootstraps'), Joe immediately pushes back and argues a far more Progressive view in all those areas. He is far to the left of the Dem establishment on those issues and much nearer Bernie.

He never lets those right talking points slide, that I have seen and always engages them and pushes back and almost always has his right leaning guest agreeing with him, at least in some areas, that these areas are more complex than the right view likes to make them.

Thus why I state he is one of the only people his right leaning 'Bro' audience will hear that stuff.

That last sentence is definitely on the positives side imo. But he also has a tendency to fall for silly rightwing windups pretty regularly too--like the libs/antifa are burning down Oregon etc.

Oh no, the white supremacists are turning on one another!



This elderly bag of mayonnaise, Trump wearing makeup and girdles and lifts, Rogan's insecure midget workout persona, why are all the white supremacists inferior physical specimen?

Shout out to the Proud Boys being designated a terrorist organization, Rogaine hosted their founder multiple times and platformed his disgusting views, such as sitting on butt plugs to own the libs. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/11088...t-organization



Wow that really owned the libs to penetrate himself with a sex toy til his eyes watered, white supremacy in action!

Lol at Bannon smirking when he said, "Trump deals with high-information people" because even he can't even believe the bullshit that he's attempting to hurl.

Beffudling is a left wing Alex Jones.

Lol at still gaf about trump. He is a sympton not the disease. And he is the perfect lightening rod to attract all your attention. He is never going to prison, won't even see the inside of a court room. America is imploding like a dying star. Eat, drink make love and enjoy while your can

In your defense, I genuinely think you lack the ability to follow even the relatively basic conversations we have in this forum.

it is factually true that MUCH of his content would lead anyone listening to believe he was a leftie.

You have your opinion while being one who has never listened to it.

But if you listened to Rogan speak on 'Race', 'Policing', 'Military', 'Drugs', 'Political Power and Structures' and a few other areas his views are in the progressive area of left wing.

But as I have also said and posted articles in some areas, he would be associated with the right.

You are the one who speaks in absurd absolutes here, which does not sync up with ANY of the analysis of Rogan even by leftie publications. So if you are patting your back on being able to "follow" a conservation on this forum you should instead focus on being able to comprehend it. As clearly you cannot. You are mostly alone with looney lefties who are the ones who need Joe to fit a cartoonish Alt Right, All Right bio when he is not that. All because he failed a purity and 'ZOMG we must purge him from the left then'. Sad.

yes yes yes

I'll just quote my own posts because it'a a waste of time to try to ever explain anything to you

Most people here think you just lie all the time. I genuinely don't think you have the ability to follow along, and like Washoe are probably not responsible for what you say like the rest of us are.

This Rogan guy is a communist, the proof is clear:

-voted for Obama
-is into weed and mushrooms
-supported Bernie Sanders
-refused to give Trump a platform
-distrusts the US government
-Steve Bannon hates him
-does yoga

This battle ground over Joe Rogan won't end will it.

What you are not doing is quoting yourself.

You and others are maintaining a claim that zero weight should be put on Joe's views on the issues below. That if generally speaking he is in Bernie Sanders progressive realm on all the topics below none of that matters in assessing him as a person, from a scale of left to right despite those issues being many of the key ones we would use to assess a politician on a left/right spectrum.

Instead you guys maintain the only issues to judge him by are the ones that lean right, which is pure selection bias. If you can declare that (just because you say so) then others can say the only ones to judge him are these left leaning ones and nothing else matters to them. Then were is discourse?

- Social Safety net - Left of Dem and GOP
- Policing Militarization - Left of Dem and GOP
- Policing and Minorities - Left of Dem and GOP
- US handling of Race and POC - left of Dem and GOP in his belief that the system are not fair and balanced and more needs to be done to address historical imbalance
- Drugs legalization - left of both parties
- MInimum wage, Progressive Taxation - left of both
- Gay Marriage, Abortion - in line with Dems



It is undeniable that all through my posting in this thread I have made cases, and posted data that shows Joe to have BOTH left and right views and yet as you do with Rogan you are trying to use selective excerpts to the exclusion of all other points made to say that is all that matters. The rest should be ignored.

You are a very dishonest debater when you know you are wrong.

none of that matters if we say it does not.

If you voted Republican one time in 30 years but otherwise have voted Dem all your life this group says that is proof you are Republican. How is that proof? Well they just refuse to accept the other data and proclaim the only data that counts or matters is the Republican vote. See easy!

Joe made the original sin of getting caught up in bad covid information, given to him mostly by exactly the type of "expert" Joe is very prone to be convinced by Brett Weinstein. Joe was not a covid denier nor anti vax and held a position that all the researchers held prior which was for certain groups (mainly young healthy men) that the vaccine was not +EV for them. As that guidance was changed and updated, Joe held fast, mainly on the belief that the young men were at more risk from the side effects than from covid. He later changed his view on that when he sat with the right type of "expert" who gave him the correct data. Because as Joe does, he justs needs a person he considers smart and credible in front of him and his views can and do change.

But that was the original sin that got Joe disavowed as left leaning.

The purity tests on the left and the cancel culture e_d ironically says does not exist that he is so actively a part of says 'if you fail a purity test, you are out'. 90% of your views and actions could be in the socialist left side of the spectrum and by decree we will simply say they have no bearing and do not count. You are now a creature of the right. And that then becomes the truth on the left, because Cancel Culture does not require fact or truth, just that the masses on the left adopt that position and repeat it as true.


What you will never see is anyone who claims Joe is right, engage me on any of the issues I raise (key positional planks for politicians) to try and show Joe is not far to the left of the entirety of the Dem establishment outside those who identify as Progressives. They simply say with a hand wave, 'it does not matter. We got him on a purity test. And that is all we need'.

Joes just afraid to admit the truth

But there are plenty of rightwingers who have cherry-picked some hippie things(applies to society at large as well ) into their lives.

These guys totally exist--Drives a VW pulling up to wholefoods wearing a floyd shirt clearly stoned and listening to some infowars/bigly into trump.

Just because it looks surreal doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

so the hippies are now right wingers. because anti vaxx and mandates.

he also said we spent 20 trillion in Afghanistan for nothing. "war in Ukraine would never happen"

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Hippies are def right wingers nowadays. For the most part.

Exactly. Individuals are complicated and their views don't fall into neat buckets, or along some linear spectrum of political views. People at an extreme end of the spectrum tend to look at people with mixed views and put them in a bucket at the opposite extreme.

Ever been to Boulder?

Yeah Joe is just a midget hippie, guys.

He totally doesn't feature white supremacists, conspiracy theorists, sexual assaulters.

All the hippies were pushing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine as effective covid treatments, it's what they do look at all of them!

Celebrity worship culture is truly out of hand just by seeing the people who post most in this thread. Goodness gracious