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05-06-2024 , 04:37 PM

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It's mostly gone without comment but a big factor in the number of people killed in this war has been the AI targeting. Perhaps after the war people will recognize it properly as unethical and dangerous and it will become a "war crime".

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05-06-2024 , 04:39 PM

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What's wrong with ending the war and freeing hostages?

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05-06-2024 , 04:39 PM

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its not commented on bc it makes Israel look awful. but Ive been posting about those articles from the start.

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05-06-2024 , 04:43 PM

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Ok so how do we call it,
If not genocide?

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05-06-2024 , 04:46 PM

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Ok so how do we call it,

If not genocide?

A war to eradicate a terrorist group that is in control of a locality with heavy civilian support (because of indoctrination).

The terrorist group routinely uses human shields and makes bases inside schools, hospitals, daycare centers even, and that causes children and otherwise innocent people to die.

Given the situation the number of civilian, non-implicated casualties is exceptionally LOW, and praises should be given to the incredible moral standards of Israel, better than most countries at war in human history.

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05-06-2024 , 04:47 PM

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fascist cops in the US are now arresting legal observers and journalists at protests

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05-06-2024 , 04:55 PM

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fascist cops in the US are now arresting legal observers and journalists at protests

sure sure

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05-06-2024 , 04:59 PM

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05-06-2024 , 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by washoe

Ok so how do we call it,
If not genocide?

You should call it what you personally think you should call it instead of asking for others to tell you what you should call it. But it doesn't matter anyway what it's called because it will be called whatever others decide to call it for the people who will call it because others decided to call it for them.

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05-06-2024 , 05:11 PM

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What's wrong with ending the war and freeing hostages?

So hamas attacks Israel, kills at least 1200 civilians in cold blood, and takes hostages
Israel gets the people who were taken hostage back in return for giving up 10 times the number of people who have committed crimes (according to Israel)

So the moral would be

Attack Israel and win?

Hamas cannot remain in power

You know this

Hamas needs to be out of power
The war can end
Bibi can get voted out

And maybe we can find a way to peace in the region

But it needs to happen in that order

Deep inside you know this

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05-06-2024 , 05:12 PM

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fascist cops in the US are now arresting legal observers and journalists at protests

As the saying goes
Nypd kkk idf they're all the same!

We know you sing it bro

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05-06-2024 , 05:13 PM

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aaaand theres the pivot

for months you spammed, just "bring them home" and it will be over. but now you finally admit it was not about the hostages. and you will gladly sacrifice them to fulfill your bloodlust against Palestinian children.

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05-06-2024 , 05:16 PM

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I've said 100 times in this thread that the war cannot end with hamas in power

Probably 200 times

Maybe you need to read English

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05-06-2024 , 05:18 PM

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So disgusting

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05-06-2024 , 05:20 PM

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who ever said ITT "bring hostages home and hamas can keep thriving in Gaza"?

full eradication of everyone connected with Hamas is the goal, the absolute moral imperative at any cost. If hostages can be recovered in the meanwhile, better. Otherwise, they died assassinated by terrorists and we have more reasons to spend our lives eradicating terrorism.

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05-06-2024 , 05:22 PM

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yeah the end of hamas has been a non-negotiable for everyone this side of mao since day one

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05-06-2024 , 05:24 PM

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Vic you accuse everyone of lying but you are by far the biggest liar in the thread

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05-06-2024 , 05:33 PM

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Hamas are appalling and should be gone

Israeli politicians ditto and are little better than democratically-elected terrorists

The everyday people of both areas deserve better than to be pushed further and further to extremes by their terrible leaders.

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05-06-2024 , 05:36 PM

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Lol at eliminating Hamas. You guys claimed American students and South African lawyers were Hamas. Good luck with that.

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05-06-2024 , 05:39 PM

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Lol at eliminating Hamas. You guys claimed American students and South African lawyers were Hamas. Good luck with that.

We claimed they are Hamas allies and supporters, which they are, like you are.

But you guys are weak cowards so if Hamas is exterminated, you will rapidly change course

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05-06-2024 , 05:42 PM

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We claimed they are Hamas allies and supporters, which they are, like you are.

But you guys are weak cowards so if Hamas is exterminated, you will rapidly change course

Oh you think I will change course and support the murderous child butchering Israelis?

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05-06-2024 , 05:44 PM

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Israel won't get anywhere by trying to wipe out political terrorists unless they take the Luciom approach that the fascist fantasises about of killing everyone.

The only answer now is a cease fire and separate Palestinian state. **** the Israeli government.

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05-06-2024 , 05:44 PM

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You call 40000 people getting killed winning? How many of those are Hamas militants? You don't think tunnels have been destroyed? You don't think Hamas ability to attack Israel has been diminished? You call that all Hamas winning?

You want the goal to be the destruction of Hamas precisely because that is so hard to define. Hamas exists in exile? Bombs away. Some people from Hamas are in a new party? Oh, they just changed their name. Bombs away. It's a perpetual excuse for Israel to always be right no matter what.

Getting the hostages back and end the war would be fantastic.

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05-06-2024 , 05:45 PM

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Israel won't get anywhere by trying to wipe out political terrorists unless they take the Luciom approach of killing everyone t hat he fantasises about.

Right. They aren't going to do this and don't really want to. What mets is getting at is a perpetual excuse.