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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
This has been discussed several times before. What are the major differences between pacification of Japan and Germany vs regime change attempts in Afghanistan and Iraq? Which is more relevant to what Israel will be doing?
Honestly, the difference is the people, culture and value systems. Consistent with their blank slate theory of humanity, liberals think you can take any group of people, lump them together, call them a state, and they will have the collective desire, will and ability to manifest this. And this just isn't true.
Liberals have constructed this myth of "Palestinian" identity that has no historical basis, past or present. In reality, what you have a is a bunch of large, extended tribal families, most of whom are recent immigrants themselves (in the last couple centuries) from places like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, etc. And most of the people are more interested in their familial/tribal interests than developing a functional nation state. And as in most cases, this value system breeds extreme nepotism, corruption, ignorance and totalitarian impulses.
Throw the current state of extremely conservative religious dogma, the foreign aid system which incentives behavior which does not lead to nation building, and very real restrictions placed by Israel and Egypt due to their own security concerns, and the idea that the Palestinian people themselves could actually form a coherent, functional state under these circumstances is absurd. And the narrative that the only impediment is Israel persecution is equally absurd.
The Jewish survivors of the 20th century pogroms and massacres in Europe and the Middle East made Israel a reality because of who they were and what they believed in. And "Palestine" has been an utter failure for the same reasons.