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04-22-2024 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
You gatekeeping who is and isn't Jewish is very antisemitic. Should people be careful before they defend you? Or fail to condemn you? I'm not down with your antisemitism or your Cultural Revolution Struggle Sessions.
I never said anyone isn't Jewish, I accurately stated that defending anti Semites leads to criticism. Jews defending anti Semitism will lead to critique from other Jews. Moral of the story- don't defend anti Semites. And I'm not interested in your trolling gaslighting either.
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04-22-2024 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Accusations of Jews engaging in genocide is a known anti Semitic trope. Keep showing your true colours mate, as I said you get more like vic every day.
Accusations of Israel engaging in genocide are not the same, and you conflating Jews with Israel is itself an anti-Semitic trope,. Go away, anti-Semite and have a long think because your posting itt is atrocious.
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04-22-2024 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
I never said anyone isn't Jewish, I accurately stated that defending anti Semites leads to criticism. Jews defending anti Semitism will lead to critique from other Jews. Moral of the story- don't defend anti Semites. And I'm not interested in your trolling gaslighting either.
Yeah, I can read dumbass. You're just saying Jews are asking for it.
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04-22-2024 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
The same c*** who thinks he knows more about law than a senior person in the Crown Prosecution Service.

Internet forums, sigh.
Why don’t you cry a little more you Nazi?
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04-22-2024 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
hmm, maybe you should have argued that point in front of the ICJ. coulda saved Israel a lot of bad press.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-...-ruling-israel
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04-22-2024 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Accusations of Israel engaging in genocide are not the same, and you conflating Jews with Israel is itself an anti-Semitic trope,. Go away, anti-Semite and have a long think because your posting itt is atrocious.
Israel? You mean the world's one Jewish state? Act coy all ya like you're fooling nobody.
Yeah maybe I should rave about fanatical Zionists and agent provocateurs when I'm not blaming Jews who are threatened with arrest due to their Jewishness and I can work my way up to your level of posting. I can dream.
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04-22-2024 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
Why don’t you cry a little more you Nazi?
I'm against the genocide you post in favour of, and all other genocides too. Go figure.
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04-22-2024 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Israel? You mean the world's one Jewish state? Act coy all ya like you're fooling nobody.
Yeah maybe I should rave about fanatical Zionists and agent provocateurs when I'm not blaming Jews who are threatened with arrest due to their Jewishness and I can work my way up to your level of posting. I can dream.
20% of Israelis are Arabs, ignoramus.
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04-22-2024 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Accusations of Israel engaging in genocide are not the same, and you conflating Jews with Israel is itself an anti-Semitic trope,. Go away, anti-Semite and have a long think because your posting itt is atrocious.
This hits on something big that I just think many people in this thread are flat out incapable of understanding. The assumption that Jews should necessarily support the actions of Israel is antisemitic. And, also people would have a hard time understanding this, but it's fascist as well. It's natural that those connected would be critical, the same as it's natural for Americans to be focused on American atrocities rather than Chinese or Russian or whatever. It's the fascist impulse that wants to call people traitors who are concerned with things they don't like being done in their names and with their tax dollars and such.
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04-22-2024 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Yeah, I can read dumbass. You're just saying Jews are asking for it.
No I didn't say that, I said crossnerd should expect critique if she defends anti Semites. Seeing as you evidently have a short attention span, I'll helpfully remind you of my earlier comment regarding my disinterest at your trolling gaslighting. If you need yet another reminder in the future, do let me know as I live to give.
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04-22-2024 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I'm against the genocide you post in favour of, and all other genocides too. Go figure.
You’re against Jews being able to cross streets.

Oh, and you speak for them when they feel unsafe.

The Nazi party would be proud.
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04-22-2024 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
20% of Israelis are Arabs, ignoramus.
It also has Vietnamese boat people and It's still the world's only Jewish state, you gobshite.
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04-22-2024 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
This hits on something big that I just think many people in this thread are flat out incapable of understanding. The assumption that Jews should necessarily support the actions of Israel is antisemitic. And, also people would have a hard time understanding this, but it's fascist as well. It's natural that those connected would be critical, the same as it's natural for Americans to be focused on American atrocities rather than Chinese or Russian or whatever. It's the fascist impulse that wants to call people traitors who are concerned with things they don't like being done in their names and with their tax dollars and such.
everyone knows that some jews do not support the actions of israel

a lot of people have noted that you are quick to call out certain people for alleged antisemitism, and not others
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04-22-2024 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
This hits on something big that I just think many people in this thread are flat out incapable of understanding. The assumption that Jews should necessarily support the actions of Israel is antisemitic. And, also people would have a hard time understanding this, but it's fascist as well. It's natural that those connected would be critical, the same as it's natural for Americans to be focused on American atrocities rather than Chinese or Russian or whatever. It's the fascist impulse that wants to call people traitors who are concerned with things they don't like being done in their names and with their tax dollars and such.
For now Micro, you have the luxury/privilege to not support Israel. I don't know if it's certain your grandchildren will. I'm not being cheeky either here. This is inside the scope of possible outcomes for them.
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04-22-2024 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
This hits on something big that I just think many people in this thread are flat out incapable of understanding. The assumption that Jews should necessarily support the actions of Israel is antisemitic. And, also people would have a hard time understanding this, but it's fascist as well. It's natural that those connected would be critical, the same as it's natural for Americans to be focused on American atrocities rather than Chinese or Russian or whatever. It's the fascist impulse that wants to call people traitors who are concerned with things they don't like being done in their names and with their tax dollars and such.
Yes we're the real anti Semites, unlike vic and his Nazi comparisons and Hamas support. You got us...
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04-22-2024 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
For now Micro, you have the luxury/privilege to not support Israel. I don't know if it's certain your grandchildren will. I'm not being cheeky either here. This is inside the scope of possible outcomes for them.
Things may be different in other parts of the world, but if this is the case because of something in the USA it's 100% going to be the Evangelical RWNJ Christians who are a danger to Jews and cozying up to them over Israel is not going to save anyone.
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04-22-2024 , 12:59 PM
Yup. Once they're done with Muslims guess who will be next.
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04-22-2024 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
For now Micro, you have the luxury/privilege to not support Israel. I don't know if it's certain your grandchildren will. I'm not being cheeky either here. This is inside the scope of possible outcomes for them.
lol you guys are really going to double down on calling micro and CN disloyal, aren't you?
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04-22-2024 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Things may be different in other parts of the world, but if this is the case because of something in the USA it's 100% going to be the Evangelical RWNJ Christians who are a danger to Jews and cozying up to them over Israel is not going to save anyone.
It's always been my belief that this adage is true:

Jews are too white for the left, and not white enough for the right


I don't know where the dagger can come from in 50 years, I don't think anyone can see that far. But a place like Israel is going to be awfully tempting to diaspora Jews if the cards fall a certain way. Definitely Europe being the most obvious spot for this outcome. As is it's record flight from France, for example.
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04-22-2024 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol you guys are really going to double down on calling micro and CN disloyal, aren't you?
Trolly it's IMMENSE privilege to be a diaspora Jew in the right places. That's not disloyalty, that's just fact. You need not look for hidden meaning.

Over time, this will become more and more obvious. Assuming you know how and where to look.
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04-22-2024 , 01:08 PM
oh look the UN have released a report stating the the UN did nothing wrong, this is the second time in the last couple of months that the UN have released such a report
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04-22-2024 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
It's always been my belief that this adage is true:

Jews are too white for the left, and not white enough for the right


I don't know where the dagger can come from in 50 years, I don't think anyone can see that far. But a place like Israel is going to be awfully tempting to diaspora Jews if the cards fall a certain way. Definitely Europe being the most obvious spot for this outcome. As is it's record flight from France, for example.
It's my belief that Israel will be a safer and better place for Jews if the Israeli military doesn't kill so many Arabs.
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04-22-2024 , 01:09 PM
I called this from day 1.

ofc, the usual crew will be in here to call the report antisemitic if they even acknowledge.
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04-22-2024 , 01:10 PM
Peter Beinart:

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When I speak on campus, I ask what % of the pro-Palestine protesters are Jewish. Usually, Jews are overrepresented. Sometimes they're the largest identity group. Maybe folks calling for cracking down on protesters in the name of Jewish safety should consider their safety too
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