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Actually, Biden's government and most of the democratic party, disagree with this. Not even behind closed doors, fairly openly. If you ask the Biden cabinet, they really think they can do 2 states inside 18-24 months.

Nobody, and I mean not even the most Hacky Sack'n beanie wearin left of left hipster in Israel believes this to be possible today.

2 State was there every time the Palestinians passed on the offer. Right now post Oct 7th, it's going to be a long slog. But we'll get there.

That’s what they say to get re-elected. In reality it’s support Israel at all costs

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04-20-2024 , 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by corpus vile

If a guy gets threatened with arrest essentially for being "openly Jewish" whose Jewishness may cause offence to pro Palestinian protesters by virtue of the fact that he's "openly Jewish" then it's clearly far from fine in London.

The met having some bone headed racist cops is not remotely new.

It is still fine. If anything the headline incident being a cop being stupid supports it being fine. Far far worse has happened on occasion and will happen again

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04-20-2024 , 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gs3737

I’m gonna assume you aren’t Jewish, bc the Jews I know from London aren’t sharing that sentiment.

Yeah, you don't know any Jewish people in London. Nice try.

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04-20-2024 , 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by corpus vile

Coppers on the beat being moronic meat heads is par for the course in London.

Guy's lucky he didn't get his head caved in for wearing loud clothes.

NTNON thug copper sketch.gif

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04-20-2024 , 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

It's fine here. Not perfect but still fine.

I know a fair few Jews who live here and agree

Which doesn't mean antisemitism, islamophobia and other problems aren't serious and getting worse.

Some people consider that last sentence to be “not fine.”

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04-20-2024 , 11:07 AM

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It's just so disgusting over over over

This happened and hurt someone Jewish

No no there's no evidence

Yes there is

No here's fake proof

Hey I'm going to say something pointless and agree with fake proof

Can you anti semites stop!

Hey the Palestinians are the real semites

Bgp shows them how wrong they are

More fake twitter posts

Mets rafiki corpus duny bgp post facts

Jew haters laugh at them

Rinse repeat

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04-20-2024 , 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Yeah, you don't know any Jewish people in London. Nice try.

lol my father is from Golders Green. Know quite a few people there.

Good try though.

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04-20-2024 , 11:15 AM

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Nice googling, how original choosing GG.

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04-20-2024 , 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

the police released an apology following that incident, stating that the use of the term 'openly jewish' was, on reflection, 'hugely regrettable'

the statement went on to note that a trend has emerged where those who oppose the pro-palestine marches are appearing close to the protest, and that they (direct quote upcoming) 'must know their presence is provocative'

half an hour later the police apologised for their apology, noting that they have reflected on their previous reflection and have concluded that walking near a pro-palestine march while being openly jewish is not a provocation

The "Pro Palestinian/Hamas marches are provocative. They should be shut down the minute someone shouts "Death to Israel" or "Death to America".

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04-20-2024 , 11:16 AM

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How about "Death to Nazis"?
"Death to Commies"?

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04-20-2024 , 11:17 AM

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nice country you have there with regard to speech laws, where misgendering someone is a crime but threatening to kill someone isn't

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04-20-2024 , 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Nice googling, how original choosing GG.

lol, sorry I’m not making up where my family is from.

It’s ok, you tried calling me out and now
look like an idiot. Keep trying to save face…

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04-20-2024 , 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor

if anything, this is racist against the Palestinians.

its saying they are so bloodthirsty that even the appearance of a Kippah could turn them violent.

regardless, the only threat to this person was from the police. and yet somehow we are supposed to blame the people opposing genocide.

This shows that the cops know how hateful and aggressive the marchers can be. They also know that the UK is soon to be a Muslim run country. I told my friends over there to get out now. Other European countries are realizing their mistake and starting to do something about it. It appears too late for the UK.

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04-20-2024 , 11:23 AM

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lol, sorry I’m not making up where my family is from.

It’s ok, you tried calling me out and now
look like an idiot. Keep trying to save face…

You like to make claims about yourself like this and like having lived in Israel, because you sense, correctly, that your arguments are weightless.

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04-20-2024 , 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gs3737

Some people consider that last sentence to be “not fine.”

It' snearly 10 million people. A small proportion are a problem That's has always been the case and always will be. It's also true that ****ed up global events ecourage that small proportion to act.

The idea that equates to it not being fine in london is false. The idea that some moron in the met demonstrates it's not fine is even more ridiculous.

Nor perfect - sure. It's fine by any world standards.

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04-20-2024 , 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciom

nice country you have there with regard to speech laws, where misgendering someone is a crime but threatening to kill someone isn't

Fantastising about killing large numbers of people is a Luciom 2+2 specialty. Only you're too cowardly to come out and say it so instead couch it in the chicken terms of making it legal first.

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04-20-2024 , 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

only 6.5% of the UK population identified as muslim in 2021 , i am not sure that characterization is correct

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04-20-2024 , 11:28 AM

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Fantastising about killing large numbers of people is a Luciom 2+2 specialty. Only you're too cowardly to come out and say it so instead couch it in the chicken terms of making it legal first.

I am actually pro free speech so i wouldn't ban people from say "death to X" if they don't use violence against property or people while doing so.

What's puzzling to me is that a county without a first amendment, than criminalizes you if you don't write "woman shows her penis to the police in the park" as the headline, allows people to make death threats in public like that.

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04-20-2024 , 11:36 AM

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HAhaha another one who 'knows people there'.

I remember you from the ill-fated Politics 7 forum, and you were a nasty little fascist there too.

Must be terrible to feel this scared all the time.

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04-20-2024 , 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciom

What's puzzling to me is that a county without a first amendment, than criminalizes you if you don't write "woman shows her penis to the police in the park" as the headline, allows people to make death threats in public like that.

A country without a written constitution isn't likely to have a first or any other amendments.

The rest of your post is unintelligible to me, sorry.

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04-20-2024 , 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

The met having some bone headed racist cops is not remotely new.

It is still fine. If anything the headline incident being a cop being stupid supports it being fine. Far far worse has happened on occasion and will happen again

Unless you're openly Jewish that is, other than that it's all hunky dory...

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04-20-2024 , 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

You like to make claims about yourself like this and like having lived in Israel, because you sense, correctly, that your arguments are weightless.

Zero claims. I’ve never lived in England, have family and friends there. And I’m literally forwarding someone else’s feelings about how London is right now.

You disagree so you try to completely discredit those who oppose your views.

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04-20-2024 , 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

We aren’t necessarily disagreeing. What I’m hearing is that small proportion is def making some feel like the situation is not good

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04-20-2024 , 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

HAhaha another one who 'knows people there'.

I remember you from the ill-fated Politics 7 forum, and you were a nasty little fascist there too.

Must be terrible to feel this scared all the time.

Jalfrezi can’t imagine having friends or family in another country.

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04-20-2024 , 01:23 PM

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I have family and friends abroad but using them as an appeal to authority over and above posters here who also live there and can be challenged would seem pathetically weak.

It's as bad as the "I've had PMs agreeing with me" that some people think is good supporting evidence.

FYI I live in part of North London that has a sizeable Jewish population, along with other ethnicities.

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