Hamas isn't a bunch of kids throwing stones. They have battlefield experience in Syria and there would be a lot of Israeli casualties if they tried to clear those cities street to street.

According to you apparently. At least according to the same post where you ask me "according to who?".

They should allow as many civilians as are willing to evacuate first. But if/when Israel goes into Rafah it should 100% be flattened completely into a pancake first, and the civilians that decide to stay behind and be martyred to get their virigns in paradise, than inhsallah.

Anything less than flattening Rafah to a pancake would be Israel needlessly sacrificing their soldiers with no hope of accomplishing any objective.

we got ****ing Bernard in here



just infuriating trolling

Some module on a tank, and?

I don’t think attacking embassies is illegal

Depends. Provocation has certainly been there from Iran, though.

I mean, this is what the observers that I listen to say. and they provide evidence, as the Elmer videos assert.

Hamas has proven to be an effective fighting force and every week they show innovative ways to resist violently.

I have been saying all along that Israel cant beat Hamas unless they go into the tunnels and take a lot of casualties. Israel is not willing to do this and therefore they just murder civilians and hope that will make Hamas surrender. it wont, despite Hamas begging for a ceasefire bc they are sick of seeing their innocent family members die. its exactly why they murdered Haniyehs kids and grandkids who arent even military.

the ironic thing about Hamas in Syria is that they fought against Hezbollah and Iran. they have since reconciled obv.

Haven't been following any of this for weeks but figured that I couldn't miss the Saturday night Bomb-a-Thon. It looks like a huge wifi on Iran's part, am I missing something? If it is I think Israel's response should be every version of 'MISSED ME! LOL AT YOU!' and let it stop here.

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Damn the internet won't let me fix 'wifi' to 'wifi.'

Jeez, try 'wiff.'

You agree this would be legitimate warfare, though, or no?

its much more legitimate than what they are doing now. they arent going after Hamas now. they are just murdering children.

thats why the whole thing about whining about if Oct 7 was a terrorist attack is bullshit. Israel does an Oct 7th ever day on the Gazans.

This is why you are a person who is really not worth engaging with or maybe just blind or maybe being an intentional troll or maybe just a liar. Here is the statement you are arguing against:

It is not stating that any attempt at repelling drones is automatically made fun of. The term "cope cage" originated as a way of making fun of "extremely poor makeshift attempts", and when Russia started to produce higher quality versions, which were not made fun of, since the only term out then was "cope cage" it stuck, but the "making fun of" aspect was largely dropped until more accurate terms were applied.


Here is an early example of a cope cage (although this source just refers to it neutrally):




And here is one from a week ago which was also mocked:




These are made fun of because they are "extremely poor makeshift attempts", as I said. They look like they were hastily made by someone who raided some pig farmer's (as you like to refer to the average Ukrainian citizen as) farm after they executed him and stole anything they could slap on top of their tank. This is not really how one would expect the second greatest military in the world to react to a new threat.

Here is an example of "cope cage" being used in a neutral way (not to make fun of the armor) because the attempt is actually decent:





And here is a modern example which is clearly professionally done, not called a cope cage and with a more military term used:







So maybe you have given some pics of "cope cages", but you have not shown a single pic that is an "extremely poor makeshift attempt", which was the bar you had to clear.

I was a covid expert. now I'm more focused on aerodynamics of tank modules, and covid is more of a hobby.

that wont be Israel's response bc their whole goal this entire time is to create a bigger war so they can do genocide easier and steal more land. so no, they wont let it stop.

and unless genocideJoe turns off the weaponry spigot, they will get what they want.

This was Iran's goal. The leaders do not want to provoke Israel or USA, but they have cultivated such a radicalized base that they had to respond. This is their attempt at doing that, but it's not really clear if it satisfies their base or if Israel will just respond anyways. Although USA has already said that they won't help Israel, which might have been different if Iran had done serious damage:

bruv, dont @ me. talk to popularMechanics and Telegraph.

I don't know what point you think you're proving. If it is that Popular Mechanics and Telegraph is using the term 'cope cage' in a mocking way I'm not seeing it.

Of course the US isn't going to participate overtly in any offensive campaign. Nothingburger

ofc this makes no sense. Westerners portray Iran as an authoritarian regime ruling with an iron fist. why would they care about their "radicalized base"? they are totalitarian after all?

if they didnt want to provoke the USA or Israel, then why did they send hundreds of drones and some missiles at them? at the very least it seems they are playing chicken.

Hopefully things settle down. Iran made their Mickey Mouse gesture to placate the jihadis in their population, and Israel can now hopefully get the situation calmed down from this crescendo and back to the crybaby chorus of western leftists.

the term cope cage was used to mock the Russians. but those very cope cages were proven to work.

you and BOIDs seem to think that the Russians are dumb beasts deserving of mockery. but they devised a way to protect themselves on the fly and it was so effective that it is now used by Israel in a brutal urban war.

the point I am making is that Russians are not stupid. and Israel is fighting against a tough force which requires them to employ the latest developments.

This shows a complete lack of understanding of how these regimes work. There's a lot of aspects that make it important to please their base, but even in your extreme version of events: it's a requirement for survival.







Yes it was used to mock Russians, although not for being stupid. And when better attempts were better the term stuck, and they were continued to be called cope cages in a non-mocking way. See my post from less than an hour ago which goes into this in depth! (FWIW if you think the term 'cope cage' is automatically an insult, then Israel is being made fun of in the same manner... and by publications like Popular Mechanics and The Telegraph no less.)


I just want to point out that this derail is brought to you by the poster who insisted it was "disgusting" that I'd mention that children should not have to hide from rocket attacks. This was during a discussion about how Israelis have become radicalized. It was "disgusting" because (once again in a focused discussion on Israel), there was greater suffering I should be talking about instead.

Meanwhile, out of nowhere, the same poster brought up the topic of how poor Russian soldiers were potentially unduly made fun of by internet trolls as they were embarking on the largest invasion of imperial conquest since WW2; while raping, mass executing, torturing, kidnapping children, forcefully deporting, and overall just destroying their neighbor.

Vic cannot be pleased with that development.

Sing, Vic. My recollections are all that's left of you.

the derail happened bc someone asked what "cope" meant.

as for a discussion about Israelis being radicalized, well that was your attempt to justify the murder and amputation of an entire society.

your entire last sentence is false ofc bc well Israel. Russia has never had an imperial conquest even close to what we are seeing right now. you should stop downplaying it. maybe you will have children one day and they will see how much you love supporting genocide. or maybe this website is gone by then. if I were you, I would hope it is bc your genocidal posting and support of the most murderous people is disgusting and shameful.