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02-18-2023 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
There is no need for it. There are enough resources to support everyone. And why don’t you guys all just use the cheapest things ? Americans like the good stuff, humans like the good stuff. The good stuff encourages work.
And yet most people consider the good stuff to be food, shelter, healthcare.
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02-18-2023 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
And yet most people consider the good stuff to be food, shelter, healthcare.
How sad that is
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02-18-2023 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
How sad that is
Well, that's life. You can protest it all you want, but until you stop doing the same thing, those words are meaningless.
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02-18-2023 , 09:10 AM
Pointless words indeed
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02-18-2023 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EastCobb
Pointless words indeed
Can't believe I missed that opportunity...
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02-18-2023 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Can't believe I missed that opportunity...
Often people can’t resist telling you the quiet part out loud
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02-18-2023 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
required? only communists force people to work
Luckily we beat the commies in the civil war
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02-19-2023 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
Luckily we beat the commies in the civil war
At least capitalists give some exchange for labor. No free lunches
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02-19-2023 , 09:21 AM
I would imagine they use ar15s from helicopters to dispatch these animals

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/19/us/ne...rnd/index.html
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02-19-2023 , 10:27 AM
Avoid confrontation with deranged angry types. And don’t turn your back stay strapped and ready to defend yourself.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-car...er-parking-lot
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02-19-2023 , 11:08 AM
Not sure if that is the best example against gun control
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02-19-2023 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EastCobb
Avoid confrontation with deranged angry types. And don’t turn your back stay strapped and ready to defend yourself.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-car...er-parking-lot

How do you know what a "deranged angry type" is before a confrontation starts?

Anyway, it looks like she'll be getting PW's panacea: free housing, free food, free healthcare, free clothing, etc...
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02-19-2023 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Not sure if that is the best example against gun control
It's not, but if there were 20 hoops to jump through to legally obtain a gun, this woman would have gotten one just as easily as she illegally did here.
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02-19-2023 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Not sure if that is the best example against gun control
It’s an example against the fairy tale world that leftists live in that legal gun owners are the bad guys and all the criminals wouldn’t use a gun to hurt anyone
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02-19-2023 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
How do you know what a "deranged angry type" is before a confrontation starts?

Anyway, it looks like she'll be getting PW's panacea: free housing, free food, free healthcare, free clothing, etc...
Looks like the only way to be assured of having all the basic necessities of life is to go to jail.

Maybe that should alert us that maybe there is a fundamental flaw in our current system.
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02-19-2023 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shortstacker
Looks like the only way to be assured of having all the basic necessities of life is to go to jail.
Money works, too.

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Maybe that should alert us that maybe there is a fundamental flaw in our current system.
So, like PW, do you think the government should subsidize healthy, capable adults to chomp on Doritos and play video games all day or perhaps there's some middle ground out there?
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02-19-2023 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCobb
It’s an example against the fairy tale world that leftists live in that legal gun owners are the bad guys and all the criminals wouldn’t use a gun to hurt anyone
Who believes that?
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02-19-2023 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Who believes that?
People who wanna ban guns, and take them out of the hands of legal responsible users
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02-19-2023 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Money works, too.



So, like PW, do you think the government should subsidize healthy, capable adults to chomp on Doritos and play video games all day or perhaps there's some middle ground out there?
Jeff bezos gets income tax refunds but you think it’s the poor persons fault.


Right now the govt subsidizes rich people to do those things. Are you ok w that
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02-19-2023 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
It's not, but if there were 20 hoops to jump through to legally obtain a gun, this woman would have gotten one just as easily as she illegally did here.
So is there not even a 1% chance that it would have been more difficult? And if there were 20 hoops to jump through for a few decades, might that 1% become 10, or 20, or 50?

I think the mistake that is often made with criticism of gun control measures and how they would be ineffective is that they're looked at isolation. The US gun culture isn't going to be noticeably changed overnight, or in one year or five. It will take generations. Looking at any one proposed change and suggesting it won't move the needle means nothing ever gets changed.

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Originally Posted by EastCobb
It’s an example against the fairy tale world that leftists live in that legal gun owners are the bad guys
And this personalization of things is another mistake. Governing means making difficult choices, and prioritizing some concerns over others. One can try to change the gun culture without believing legal gun owners are "the bad guys".
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02-19-2023 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCobb
People who wanna ban guns, and take them out of the hands of legal responsible users
Im fine with responsible users owning guns. How about we have some system that insures those folks can continue to own them while we take them away from the folks that have no business owning them

In your myopic dont take my gun hard-line stance you've created a country where mass shootings are so common they don't even make the news half the time.
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02-19-2023 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Im fine with responsible users owning guns. How about we have some system that insures those folks can continue to own them while we take them away from the folks that have no business owning them

In your myopic dont take my gun hard-line stance you've created a country where mass shootings are so common they don't even make the news half the time.
You’re saying we should trust the government to figure out who should own guns or not?
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02-19-2023 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
You’re saying we should trust the government to figure out who should own guns or not?
Well, without going down the government is evil rabbithole, yes.
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02-19-2023 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Im fine with responsible users owning guns. How about we have some system that insures those folks can continue to own them while we take them away from the folks that have no business owning them

In your myopic dont take my gun hard-line stance you've created a country where mass shootings are so common they don't even make the news half the time.
Ridiculous. I haven’t created ****. The founding fathers put the 2nd amendment in for a reason. The actions of criminals and crazies shouldn’t take away law abiding people’s rights.

Maybe the answer is in punishing people harder. More executions and deportations perhaps. Or just lock them up and throw away the key.
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02-19-2023 , 05:50 PM
You want to lock them up and throw away the key, but if that doesn't happen you want them heavily armed. Makes no sense.
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