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08-22-2020 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And this is where the Democrats go unhinged. Democrats think it's a great strategy to non-stop blast Trump, and anyone who is not onboard with that strategy is disgusting. These folks figured out that's a losing strategy.
When dude changes his re-election slogan from Keep America Great back to Make America Great Again, after 4 years in office, there's a tacit admission there.
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08-22-2020 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And this is where the Democrats go unhinged. Democrats think it's a great strategy to non-stop blast Trump, and anyone who is not onboard with that strategy is disgusting. These folks figured out that's a losing strategy.
Oh, right, if the Dems wanted to win, they'd just do exactly what Trump wants all the time, and slather praise on Dear Leader. That's exactly what Republicans did with Obama. They passed his bills, heaped praise on him, and never made up any silly conspiracies about him, and so they were able to win power.
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08-22-2020 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And this is where the Democrats go unhinged. Democrats think it's a great strategy to non-stop blast Trump, and anyone who is not onboard with that strategy is disgusting. These folks figured out that's a losing strategy.
It's generally a very poor strategy but they are pushing downhill with trump that helps it a lot. Trump is losing all by himself so it's a rare occasion where just focusing on how awful he is might be as good as anything.

Still be better to to have a good alternative but again trump is so bad that even the vast majority of the progressive left is willing to hold their breathe and vote biden.
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08-22-2020 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
This is disgusting, but it proves the point that I just made in a different thread. People forget how opposed the GOP establishment was to Trump until his nomination became inevitable.
and how quickly they are likely to bounce back to where they were once he is gone. Not that that was a pretty place - I use to think Cruz was the most scary USA politician I'd ever heard speak.
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08-22-2020 , 01:27 PM
Article: Does Trump Suffer From "Self Destructive Syndrome"?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ctive-syndrome

This ties in with my (wishful?) thinking that after four years of Trump and his constant turmoil and chaos, people - hopefully a majority of people - are simply fed up with Donald John Trump. On election day they'll register their displeasure with a (hopefully) resounding rejection of Trump and all his [GOP] enablers. If there is a "blue wave" rout of Trump and the GOP, I wonder how many microseconds it will take for Republicans to turn on their fearless leader instantly blaming Trump for their losses?

Rachel Maddow had an interesting interview last night with CNN's Brian Stelter. Stelter has just written a book, (i.e. "Hoax"),

https://www.amazon.com/Untitled-Bria...s%2C377&sr=1-1

that goes inside the Fox News Channel and all the turmoil and chaos in that operation. Several FNC insiders talked to Stelter off-the-record to reveal - among other things - that Trump spends six hours a day watching Fox. He talks (frequently) with Sean Hannity and other Fox on-air personalities. Once he hangs up the phone with President Trump, Hannity has "interesting" things to say to his staffers about the President. According to Stelter's sources inside FNC, Hannity has told staffers he thinks Trump is "crazy" and questions Trump's mental stability.

Stelter describes an atmosphere of open hostility between the "Journalism" side of the house, (i.e. Chris Wallace, Brit Hume, et al.), and the "Opinion" side of the house, (i.e. Hannity, Jeannine Piro, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson et al.), and the constant friction between the two sides. (The journalists strongly believe the opinion side of the house has gone way too far in their parroting of Trump paranoia and their less-than-objective reporting/disseminating of Trump propaganda and conspiracy theories.)

Stelter reports interesting "gossip" about the real power at FNC: Rupert Murdoch and members of the Murdoch family. Apparently the Murdoch's are worried about the election and what happens [to them] if Trump loses. The fear is that Trump will storm out in a huff - enraged that the Fox News Channel didn't do enough to "support" him - and form his own "Trump News Network" to be in direct competition with FNC. According to Mr. Stelter, the Murdoch's - sensing a Trump defeat - are suddenly questioning whether their total [unquestioning] support of Trump is smart business. In the remaining weeks between now and election day, it will be interesting to watch for any discernable shift in the "tone" of Trump coverage on the Fox News Channel. (Assuming Trump does lose and the Republicans suffer an election day debacle losing the Senate as well as the White House, it will be popcorn time watching how quickly the Fox News Channel turns on Trump blaming him for the GOP's woes.)

Last edited by Former DJ; 08-22-2020 at 01:55 PM.
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08-22-2020 , 02:12 PM
Brian Stelter, I've got a book to sell. Anonymous sources. Gee must be true. Right?

LMAO.
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08-22-2020 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Oh, right, if the Dems wanted to win, they'd just do exactly what Trump wants all the time, and slather praise on Dear Leader. That's exactly what Republicans did with Obama. They passed his bills, heaped praise on him, and never made up any silly conspiracies about him, and so they were able to win power.
I've told you several times before, you should ignore what Trump says a large percentage of the time. Just like I should ignore you a large percentage of the time.
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08-22-2020 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And this is where the Democrats go unhinged. Democrats think it's a great strategy to non-stop blast Trump, and anyone who is not onboard with that strategy is disgusting. These folks figured out that's a losing strategy.
Yeah **** having integrity am I right iHIV.

One thing republicans/conservatives will never be accused of is having integrity.
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08-22-2020 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I've told you several times before, you should ignore what Trump says a large percentage of the time.
You want to keep a guy in office whom everyone should ignore what he says a large percentage of the time? What could go wrong?
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08-22-2020 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Should have tossed in his current press secretary in there.
I forgot about her but you are right. The one in the video I didn’t remember is Kellyanne Conway.

And not just to bash republicans, this lack of integrity and conscious exists across the political spectrum. The main difference is there are exceptions on the left side of the spectrum.
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08-22-2020 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
How much you want to make a bet, less than ten percent of my posting has to do with defending Trump.
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I've told you several times before, you should ignore what Trump says a large percentage of the time.
lol
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08-22-2020 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
You want to keep a guy in office whom everyone should ignore what he says a large percentage of the time? What could go wrong?
More insanity. Simply being critical how you all respond to Trump is not an indication I want to keep Trump.
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08-22-2020 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
and how quickly they are likely to bounce back to where they were once he is gone. Not that that was a pretty place - I use to think Cruz was the most scary USA politician I'd ever heard speak.
I have had recent disagreements with people on this. In 2015 I 100% felt Cruz was the worst case scenario. I am not entirely sure he still would not have been. However things would happen so much differently to be imcomparable.

I would go with almost anyone over Trump but if you told me eight years of Cruz would guarantee no more Trump, I am not sure I could get on board. From a rationalization standpoint though, it would be much easier for me to
Convince myself Cruz wouldn’t be that bad. Trump is so horrible and blatant, I could never overcome my inner monologue.
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08-22-2020 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Yeah **** having integrity am I right iHIV.

One thing republicans/conservatives will never be accused of is having integrity.
The fact you think any of them have integrity is amazing. Kamala Harris insinuated Biden was a racist, and believed his accusers that he sexualy assulated them, and now she is going to be his VP.

I have no problem calling Trump a liar, narcissist, and disingenuous bloviator. Political pragmatism is a thing on both sides.
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08-22-2020 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Brian Stelter, I've got a book to sell. Anonymous sources. Gee must be true. Right?

LMAO.
Stelter has an excellent reputation and is an expert in that sector. His book is something I look forward to reading. I have read some published excerpts and it is very interesting.

It is interesting that Hannity essentially puts up with trump because he is the Twilight Zone kid who can wish him into the corn field. Not discounting hannity’s horribleness with this he is absolutely awful and criminally complicit. It is just interesting seeing how much more complicated things are and how absolutely absurd Trump’s relationship with Fox News is.
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08-22-2020 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I've told you several times before, you should ignore what Trump says a large percentage of the time. Just like I should ignore you a large percentage of the time.
Ignoring all the official things the president says should not be requisite to be an American.

The fact that you do makes you a total dumb ass. You constantly participate in discussions here from a position of extreme ignorance.
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08-22-2020 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I have had recent disagreements with people on this. In 2015 I 100% felt Cruz was the worst case scenario. I am not entirely sure he still would not have been. However things would happen so much differently to be imcomparable.

I would go with almost anyone over Trump but if you told me eight years of Cruz would guarantee no more Trump, I am not sure I could get on board. From a rationalization standpoint though, it would be much easier for me to
Convince myself Cruz wouldn’t be that bad. Trump is so horrible and blatant, I could never overcome my inner monologue.
It's a horrible choice. I have to treat it a but like major atrocities and just not try to decide which was better.

But event's like covid do show the extra danger of a ****ing incompetent idiot. I don't know how cruz would have handled covid but at least I would have expected him to have understood it reasonably well.
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08-22-2020 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I've told you several times before, you should ignore what Trump says a large percentage of the time. Just like I should ignore you a large percentage of the time.
This is still not the strategy Republicans used against Obama to gain considerable power.
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08-22-2020 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
This is still not the strategy Republicans used against Obama to gain considerable power.
I don't know why I have to defend the GOP, who I'm not a member of, when I'm being critical of the left. Well, I know why, but that just gets us moved to the **** thread.
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08-22-2020 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
The fact you think any of them have integrity is amazing. .
Well, the Rs keep crashing us into icebergs.
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08-22-2020 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And this is where the Democrats go unhinged. Democrats think it's a great strategy to non-stop blast Trump, and anyone who is not onboard with that strategy is disgusting. These folks figured out that's a losing strategy.
As a side point, the Rs figured it out by being told that either you step in line or you'll either lose funding or the party will outright support someone else in your next election. Lindsey Graham didn't have a political ideology shift; he made the decision to suck it up for the sake of his political career. Some Rs decided to bow of politics for a while rather the supporting Trump while others made a different choice. Whether or not the public gives the latter a free ticket to shift back to their original platform hopefully will be seen at the ballot box.
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08-22-2020 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I don't know why I have to defend the GOP, who I'm not a member of, when I'm being critical of the left. Well, I know why, but that just gets us moved to the **** thread.
I'm not expecting you to defend the GOP here. I'm showing you that they had a winning strategy against Obama. It was enormously successful. You want the Dems to do something else entirely, and not what was enormously successful. Sure seems like you just want the Dems to not be successful more than you actually have good strategic advice!
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08-22-2020 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I've told you several times before, you should ignore what Trump says a large percentage of the time. Just like I should ignore you a large percentage of the time.
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I don't know why I have to defend the GOP, who I'm not a member of, when I'm being critical of the left. Well, I know why, but that just gets us moved to the **** thread.
Why being critical of the left ?
You shouldn’t listen half of what they say , like trump .....

Makes sense right ?!
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08-22-2020 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And this is where the Democrats go unhinged. Democrats think it's a great strategy to non-stop blast Trump, and anyone who is not onboard with that strategy is disgusting. These folks figured out that's a losing strategy.
They blasting the president , not trump !
did democrats cares about trump before he was president ?

If trump would stop lying , Stop using the justice system to his own benefit , trust science that would prevent him presides like a ****** ( climate change , economy , Covid, etc) , the Democrat wouldn’t be like that .

And on top of that , republicans did the freakin same vs Clinton - Obama- Carter and Kennedy anyway !
So why complain ???
The republican did showed for decades how to act when you don’t have the power correct ?

How can you expect the democrats or liberals to act in an honorable way when republicans and the right just call them ****** and no good ?

You can’t expect someone to act better than republican if they aren’t better at the start , right ?
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08-22-2020 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
If trump would stop lying , Stop using the justice system to his own benefit , trust science that would prevent him presides like a ****** ( climate change , economy , Covid, etc) , the Democrat wouldn’t be like that .
Trump is never going to do that.


I don't expect them to act in an honorable way, I do expect them to act in a smart way. I've said, for a very long time, Democrats should talk about their issues, not how bad Trump is. It's like the GOP ad I posted a few days ago....that ad now has like 10M views. That's Trump's game. Attack, attack, attack. He does it better, and gets much more free media than anyone else. He plays the villian perfect. He is not saddled with trying not to look bad while Democrats try to throw mud while sitting in an ivory tower, forgetting that they look like **** when they get into it with him.
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