It is truly astonishing how bad your takes are on just about everything.

I mean you admitted in another post that you believe he has cheated on his taxes but then complain at him being investigated for this. Why should that be a crime that shouldn't be investigated to you?

So you complain that he is always under investigation now is it him that's corrupt or are the FBI, Homeland security, etc so fundamentally broken and corrupted that they just decided to investigate the "leader of the free world" because they don't like him?

There is little doubt in my mind that trump cheated on his taxes. Not because of who is, what he has said in the past or anything other than the fact that he is a real estate person. If you think the FBI should be investigating if a real estate person is cheating on their taxes then you have to ask why are they only going after trump for this? Go after all the real estate people and all the waiters/waitresses who are also cheating on their taxes and then when you are done with them go after the high school babysitters because you know some of them are bringing in bank and not reporting a dime. Seriously though is that the job of the FBI?

Ehhh. We won't agree on core aspects.

It was Bush et al, who controlled the case presented to Congress for the vote. After 9/11 and before 9/18 (just 7 days) they assembled their intelligence to say 'the Saudi and Egyptian actual criminals are not really to blame and Afghanistan is'.

You hold a position that any other Admin (Bernie Admin) would have come to that same conclusion and feel certain enough to say it as if it cannot be disputed. I believe it is more likely a Bernie Admin, would have had their focus on the Saudi's and Egyptian angle and felt the justification to invade Afghanistan s not there. BUt actions (Sanctions, other against Saudi, Egypt, Afghanistan) might have been on the table for any/all.

It is not that we disagree I take issue with, as clearly we can agree to disagree. I just take issue with your certainty and stating this as if fact (uke if you are paying attention this is my issue) when this is clearly an issue of opinion.

I also think you are being disenous in that last sentence because Bernie would have no real way to 'question the proof' within that 8 days that would seem credible. Bush would be saying they are sp[eaking form the clear and undeniable data and Intel, while Bernie at best could say 'i just don't trust them'. He could only be obstructionist and only in a way that would not matter anmd he would have been labeled and believed to be obstructionist and conspiracy theorists, just as you demonstrate you would have labeled them and the way the one person who did vote against got labeled and attacked.

In the gambit of 'pick your battles' and 'don't waste your bullets or power when it will mean nothing and will do you harm in representing your positions later', I can understand anyone on the margins not voting against a vote they know is passing by 99% margin supported by a United country calling out for blood.

Seriously how can this be you thinking!

How do you know they aren't going after other real estate people? Your only hearing about Trump's case cause it's high profile.

Yes let's compare a baby sitter not paying tax on their 4hours a week at 15$ that's completely the same as the million $ fraud Trump had been doing or years

Didn't the investigation into trump begin before his political effort anyway?

iirc the Deutche Bank stuff was already underway.

Real estate people have been cheating on their taxes for 100+ years and you think the FBI just found out about it?

Remember al Capone ?
Yup seem it’s the fbi job .

Seem you need to reread his post …..
Still the same Answer

This


Your response (Mickey's) is basically the same as saying "They haven't found the Zodiac Killer so why are they going after these people that have only committed a single murder"

Bah in another thread

You like draft dodgers and criminals?

No, he died over 3 decades before I was born. I do have to admit that I think the FBI is grossly over stepping their boundaries by investigating college bball and horseracing too.

A better analogy would be for trump to get arrested (and be the only one arrested) in California for stealing a candy bar after thousands of people have been stealing stuff out of retail stores in Cali for years and politicians have essentially said it is ok to steal.

Remember this whole convo started because I said I understood why trump would feel like this country is "rigged" against him. It isn't just the shady real estate stuff that is suddenly not ok - look at all the other investigations.

So you’re defending what is definitively a crime?

The FBI is authorized by statute to investigate all federal crimes that are not assigned exclusively to another federal agency. So you must be suggesting that the FBI was stepping on the authority of a different federal agency when it investigated federal crimes related to college basketball and horseracing. Which agency?

Well one thing I know u disagree with but I believe is necessary .
As u give people in power , more and more power , those in power need to be responsible with it ….
Why ?

“absolute power corrupts absolutely”

Fwiw I’m not very surprise about baham thinking .
When something goes against Republican “values” , they gladly changes their stances When its one of tier own being aim at ….

Republican usually are tough on crime but since trump been the target , one of their own , now it’s bad to be tough on crime and seem it demonstrate a corrupt agency lol …

But man did Republicans were not shy to be tough on crime about a blowjob for a sitting president in the 90s

The usual double standard because Republican are special u know …

Ps: what is the job of the fbi baham beside going through Hilary email ?

You're not making any sense. Yes, the main people who planned 9/11 were of various nationalities. But they were in Afghanistan because they were on the run from US and other authorities for being terrorists and they couldn't go to Saudi Arabia or Egypt because they would be arrested.

I don't think Bernie Sanders is that stupid. And we know he already understood the role of Afghanistan in 9/11 a week after the event.


If he's that weak and folds under pressure, it would be 10000x worse as POTUS with every American and foreign intelligence agency telling him that Afghanistan and the Taliban provided the environment to plan the attacks that no other country was willing to. Jut doesn't seem like you have even a basic understanding of 9/11 if you think the first response of any non moron would be to punish a country like Saudi Arabia, which had already revoked bin Laden's citizenship and worked with the US to weaken his operation in Sudan.....rather than the country that welcomed him with open arms and allowed him to set up shop undisturbed as a world famous terrorist.

Of course I like draft dodgers.

Was about to post the same. As long as they dont love sending others.

Too much privilege involved of course.

In the modern age, I also like draft dodgers FWIW, depending on context.

The more who dodge Putin's draft, the better.
I also support those who dodge Ukraines draft and feel they should have the right to but then they forfeit any land and holdings they have in Ukraine that are fixed and non moveable.

We know when it comes to the aggressors in wars, they are almost always about power plays between elites or launched to support corporate interests. Very few 'righteous' wars. And we know the elites and corporations generally pay none of the cost of those wars (the 'poors' fight it) whereas in the past, at least that cost was a bit more paid, generally by kids of the elite as well, as it was seem as shameful for them to duck the draft claiming 'bone spurs'.

Why do i think, for example in Ukraine, if anyone dodges the draft (which should be allowed) that they also then forfeit their lands, etc?

Because the choice, using the Ukraine example, is to fight back against Russia or cede the country to Russia, including Russia to do what it wants with the lands, as the victor. Yes you were allowed to dodge the draft, but you get the same result of losing control of your lands.


Those who choose to stay and fight face enormous risk (loss of life and lands) and if they win, they keep those things.

You risk increased Free Rider risk, if I everyone knows "i can get all the benefits of winning the war, but not have to take any risk of proving the defense in the war', 'I will let others take all that risk for me'.

no talks about this ?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rus...ns-2022-11-07/

"Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Monday he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue doing so in future, the first such admission from a figure implicated by Washington in efforts to influence American politics.

In comments posted by the press service of his Concord catering firm on Russia's Facebook equivalent VKontakte, Prigozhin said: "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/07/europ...-meddling-intl

This is legit funny. It was trending on twitter. It's 45 seconds long.
https://twitter.com/duty2warn/status...20417252298752

In that case, he's not lying; he's just mistaken.

Lying is asserting something to be true even when you actually believe that it is false.

How are our free-thinkers doing? DeSantis time? Are we switching all at once or trying to sneak around a little?

trump v desantis is going to be insane if we get to see that. also what's fireworks is there legit right now is a huge drop off between those 2 and whoever is 3rd. I don't even know who 3rd would possibly be.

could be as big of a bloodbath as hillary v obama if you guys remember. assuming neither one holds back