Going from a near 0.0% case death rate for young people to 60% death rate is a very fringe hypothetical.

Thank goodness for vaccines and lockdowns.

Yes thank god for vaccines actually.

Didn't know we see eye to eye on so many things!

My favorite thing you repeatedly do and don't realize you do (despite my pointing out) is use the relatively low death count for younger people in Canada (which had lockdowns) as evidence against lockdowns when it's really a perfect demonstration of the value of lockdowns.

I rank that just ahead of your treating anyone over the age of 50 as if they are completely worthless and blaming long covid on fat people.

Those aren't as cute.

Yes I fought it off and I was vaccinated too ….
Which btw maybe we got lucky to find a vaccine as quickly as we did .
Maybe it could mutate in way we can’t find a vaccine before 5 years shrug , who knows ?


Yes without mutation !
Under 40 was basically fine !
Oh my god.
U can’t wait a virus to mutate deadly at 50% death rate before doing some drastic measure because it’s already to late .
people are becoming zombies without knowing it they carry the highly deadly virus for days and still infect people ….
But at that time it’s too late to do anything worthwhile ….

I think u just don’t appreciate the real danger it can actually do .
FWIW for what I kind read , Spanish flu 1918 was like below 5% death rate just to put in perspective ….

ah ok. yea same here minus the metal taste. I couldnt taste anything.

It just take 1 mutation from an already deadly virus and I never said we should wait there , it’s your number , damages at much lower rates death rates is very destructive .
Waiting at 60% death rates maybe wipes out humanity or close to it ?
I mean I lose half population ?
How economy runs then ?
How u coordinate for finding a vaccine ?
Get medical help ?
Etc .

Imagine if by then we have no response not even a vaccine …..
Because that is what u complain right ?
Lockdown shouldn’t have occur even before we had the vaccine in like November 2020 right ?

Here are some posts I made just today.

"That is why I recommended locking down people over 55."

"Lock down people with comorbidity + olds and let everyone else burn through."

youre watching too many zombie movies man.
when did a virus ever become more deadly?
the answer is probably never, they always become less deadly.

no thats not what hes complaining about I think.
thats not what people complain about.
complains are about the massive f ups that happened on every front.

Not it’s not never .
Because they actually did become deadly in the first place ….

but even when very unlikely , when millions of people gets infected daily. , tiny chances gets very big very quickly .
That is the whole point of lockdowns before u find a response like a vaccine .
Every person that gets infected gives a chance for a virus to mutate , so yes the trend is lower but it just take one in a million and it gets bad very quickly .

And 1 in a million is something that was possible during in Covid .
U had days that infected people 1 million per day !

Maybe the plague? But that's bacteria that comes from rats as carriers and we don't live with them anymore like the medieval ages.


Spanish flu was very deadly, there is a chance one day the spanish flu type of virus comes back but who knows, society would deal with it as it comes.

Oh I've seen those posts. Unfortunately for you, we've all seen the others.

Yet more incorrect nonsense. You don't even have to go back very far for an example. Delta variant.

There's no impetus to become less virulent if the virus spreads well before symptom onset, which COVID does.

spreading fast is actually a good thing imo. then its over with fast.
a virus doesnt want to kill the host it wants to spread so it becomes more transmissive thats all. it never happened only in zombie movies.

yea so there isnt really an example of virus becoming more deadly.
so they f us with that nonsense.

Holy mother of God. Just no. Just stop talking. This type of nonsense is literally dangerous. It's blatantly, demonstrably untrue and promotes thinking that could lead to the death of millions. Quite literally. You may think being an amateur virologist is fun, but I can't impress upon you how dangerous it is to play pretend like this.

Since you apparently missed it before, I'll repeat it here. The Delta variant was more deadly than the strains that preceded it.


"The Delta variant was initially identified in India in late 2020; it spread throughout the world, and soon became the predominant variant until Omicron 3 took its place in mid-December 2021. It is believed that the Delta variant caused more than twice as many infections, and deaths than previous variants."

Tabatabai M, Juarez PD, Matthews-Juarez P, Wilus DM, Ramesh A, Alcendor DJ, Tabatabai N, Singh KP. An Analysis of COVID-19 Mortality During the Dominancy of Alpha, Delta, and Omicron in the USA. J Prim Care Community Health. 2023 Jan-Dec;14:21501319231170164. doi: 10.1177/21501319231170164. PMID: 37083205; PMCID: PMC10125879.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10125879

"Among the five known SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern, Delta is the most virulent leading to severe symptoms and increased mortality among infected people."

Casey Patrick, Vaibhav Upadhyay, Alexandra Lucas, Krishna M.G. Mallela,
Biophysical Fitness Landscape of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Receptor Binding Domain,
Journal of Molecular Biology,
Volume 434, Issue 13,
2022,
167622,
ISSN 0022-2836,
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jmb.2022.167622.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...029?via%3Dihub

Just stop.

If I didn't know better I'd swear this is a SNL skit or something. It just can't be real life.

If I had to draw it, I'd draw a bunch of people with dunce caps on, drooling on themselves and just repeatedly running into a wall. It is literally unbelievable to watch utter stupidity at this level.

Which is one thing. But coupled with such arrogance, it's just crazy.

yea ok so in theory a virus can become more deadly.
delta did get more deadly and more contagious, they say.
the original covid was deadly though, it killed doctors in china.

https://www.ihv.org/news/2021-archiv...re-deadly.html

Probably high fiving each other after each wall slam too. Or trying and missing, hitting each other in the face.


Lolololol at "in theory". It's literally ****ing happened!

How many times do you have to be shown that what you believe is utterly wrong before you consider that what you think about this issue is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT?

jfc

I know absolute dog dong about quantum physics, but I don't wade into a forum and start insisting my opinion on quantum physics matters at all. Get a freaking grip. ffs

yea ok, go find another virus in the history of mankind that became more deady.


good luck with that!

Why? It literally happened WITH THIS EXACT VIRUS due to characteristics that are unique TO THIS VIRUS.

I'll repeat this yet again, because apparently you can't read:

THERE'S NO IMPETUS TO BECOME LESS VIRULENT WITH COVID. NONE. IT SPREADS EFFICIENTLY BEFORE SYMPTOM ONSET, WHICH IS UNLIKE MOST VIRUSES. OTHER EXAMPLES ARE UNNECESSARY.

holy crap.