Other than your gut feel do you have any scientific research at all that showed flu vaccines to have no effect on the group getting the vaccine vs the control group that received a placebo? That would really be interesting to see.

As to your concerns about the funding who besides the government in coordination with big pharma, is responsible for developing vaccines as part of their public health responsibilities? Who would you expect to pay for the extensive studies required for approval?

yea, you cant die from the flue. unless you are seriously sick already.

"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), it is estimated that between 70% and 85% of seasonal flu-related deaths have occurred in people 65 years and older, and between 50% and 70% of seasonal flu-related hospitalizations have occurred among people in this age group."


Flu: Who Is Most at Risk? | Northwestern Medicine





where have I heard this before?? hmmm oh yea covid,, thats it im out,


mery christmas!

I just have a hard time believing Omni is anywhere near as bad as the AS. Remember the scenes in Italy and then how contagious and how many magnitude more Omni has infected but has not caused a **** show like that.
But I think will be really hard to find a study showing a group of people with no jab and no previous infection and compare their omnicron outcomes to AS cases from 2+ years ago.

the last recession was because of republicans??

I mean the poster is banned now so he cant reply, but is that true? republicans, not dems fault?

now its because of the democrats. pretty sure about that. that would make it even. (corona madness, war madness, etc, wounldnt have happened under trunp.) might have come to a recession either way, since what goes up must come down I guess.

I rarely get sick either. And when I do it tends to be minor. I got covid once (was double vax'd) and it was very minor. One bad day and a turn to the better the next day.

I have never had a flu shot as an adult (can't remember if i got any as a kid).

I used to get every cold going around, which are irritating but not that bad. And then about 10 years ago I made it my life mission to stop touching my face and I maybe get one cold every 2-3 years.

I think, by far, hand contact to cold infected surfaces and then touching our eyes, nose, mouths, is the number one transmitter of colds.

I lived in Edmonton 8 years and think i caught 3 colds, even when in offices with people all sniffling with colds. Historically I would expect at least 2 colds per season.

I completely agree about the importance of not touching your face. When I started work as a poker dealer I got 3-4 really bad colds a year, plus a couple of eye infections. Then all the covid measures went into effect, incl masks, hand sanitizer, and.plexiglass. Plus just becoming hyper aware of not touching my face. Not only did I not get covid, I didnt have a single cold that year. And I think not touching my face was a key part of that, along with eliminating handshakes.

Sadly, the day the plexiglass came down and rules relaxed, most players went back to either coughing into their hands and then directly touching their cards and chips, or not covering their mouth at all. And all those players who never washed their hands after using the restroom no longer had to get a mandatory shot of sanitizer upon return. It was back to working in a petri dish.

I was hoping hand shaking would not come back and the fist bump (Howie Mandell) would replace it.

I tried to lead that by always putting out the fist first but it really becomes hard not to shake an out stretched hand. In a way you are saying you 'do not trust them'. It used to be the open hand was saying 'see i have no weapon... trust me', but now the person is kind of saying "i am not a sickness threat, you can trust me and shake', but they simply do not have the info to know. But you kind of insult them by saying 'yeah I am not touching that hand of yours''.

Question for Browser2920:

Why is the above allowed, but my quoting a very brief Scripture in response to it not allowed?

Or, more specifically, is the following an accurate take on your policy:

Using the Lord's name in vain is acceptable, but quoting a brief verse as a response to it is not acceptable.

Thanks.

Christ is an exclamatory remark usually indicating a measure of disapproval or disbelief. So I left it as it expressed the posters feelings as to the quoted post, and is not considered an obscenity.

Your post, OTOH, was simply a quoting of a bible verse that was unrelated to the topic of the thread. As such, I deleted it as a no content post.

If you would like to discuss this further, I'd be glad to. But please post it in the moderation discussion thread.
Thanks.

Will take it to the appropriate thread. Thank you.

There was a ton of off topic posts here, but since they acquired critical mass I moved them to their own thread

I don't see any new threads.

edit: Found it!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1817092/

Are vaccines fueling new covid variants

Will all the people who have messed up their immune systems cause negative consequences for those responsible enough to not get vaccinated?

lol no

Because you're a doctor and you've studied this stuff or is this just your opinion as someone who believes all the correct things?

Because I'm a normally-educated guy who knows how evolution and scare headlines work. You don't really need an advanced degree to see what's ridiculous about that headline.

Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines

Nearly half of Americans think COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and more than a quarter say someone they know could be among the victims.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that (49%) of American Adults believe it is likely that side effects of COVID-19 vaccines have caused a significant number of unexplained deaths, including 28% who think it’s Very Likely. Thirty-seven percent (37%) don’t say a significant number of deaths have been caused by vaccine side effects, including 17% who believe it’s Not At All Likely. Another 14% are not sur

But more than half of Americans have gotten vaxxed, so what happened here?

How does evolution work?

Why didn't small pox and other things people are vaccinated against evolve to evade those vaccines?

Not gonna hold your hand and walk you through bio 101. You know this.


Depends on the virus and the vaccine. The flu is constantly evolving to evade vaccines. Smallpox couldn't mutate fast enough to get around the eradication campaign. The idea that vaccines are somehow "fueling" mutation is absurd.

I wish the Wall Street Journal would knock it off with their "scare headlines." At this rate, they'll be indistinguishable from The National Enquirer.

Is it survival of the fittest? Could you at least help me out with that one? That is the underlying principal right?

Doctors are supposed to not over prescribe antibiotics because why?

Is the idea that antibiotics have caused bacterial strains resistant to antibiotics also absurd?

Normally-educated guy = "I have been successfully indoctrinated by the Spirit of this Age."

Not sure if vaccination is "this age," it's 19th-century medicine IIRC.

you do, deh yeeh?

what about this headline:

"Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" ?