ably assisted by those who try so hard to get them banned

The only real effort to get anyone banned was with Shuffle when he started a spree of posts arguing vaccines would kill millions of people and this was being done on purpose.

FYP.

FYP

He self destructed as he was saying Covid was released at earlier and earlier times in history. I think we were at the 1990s from his manifestos when he self destructed. Had he remained then Covid would have been invented for the signing of the Declaration of Independence in his 2022 posts.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/...bs-2022-10-31/

Well that's nice at least.

Well, if we want a conspiracy, then consider that it would be immensely profitable for agriculture and business affected by biosecurity if people did not focus overly much on their business practices.

This is of course especially true in countries and regions which already has incredibly lax practices for food production and food safety. However, in our own countries we are also using techniques for food production that immunologists and epidemiologists warn are perfect breeding grounds for new diseases. Stuff like factory farming and cramming genetically similar farm animals together in increasingly cramped spaces. Couple this with alarming usage of antibiotics in food production, and you are basically looking at a perfect and gigantic petri-dish for evolving new and horrifying diseases.

And no, this is not theoretical. Outbreaks happen frequently. Here is an article with a few examples: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-next-pandemic

There is likely plenty of outbreaks that we never even hear about.

It also happens in the wild when you let certain species overpopulate and do not cull them especially amoung deer populations.

I get a kick out of folks against hunting but have no clue were their meat comes from. Factory farming is disgusting and states set out to protect it

In a very dystopian world view it is actually nice.

keeping people locked in as the virus inevitably is given time to circulate through all of them and run its course, will at least see some feel slight relief by being kept busy.

China's holding to this zero covid policy is really perplexing to me. I guess due to population density and a lack of hospital facilities, they feel any unrestrained outbreak would be such a disaster, in terms of death that they just cannot risk it? I am not sure India's experience supports that but then China's median age is quite a bit higher than India's, which matters. And India I think is less obese, which also matters.

Very disturbing and certainly seems very believable.



Yup.

Absolutist left leaning environmentalists are a scourge. Culls on animals like deer and Canada geese to control populations in the absence of predators are absolutely necessary, not just to keep their numbers healthy, but to stop them spreading disease to humans.

I remember the change in Ontario, to some of the culls in and around Toronto because well meaning but naive, mostly leftists, made it so unpalatable that permits are almost never issued. It is not just the change in the parks all across Canada now over run and fouled by the geese but the health issues. Once again 'The road to hell...' forced by well meaning leftists who put emotion over any pragmatic considerations.

There is insane levels of cognitive dissonance when it comes to the treatment of animals.

I believe it is more a combination of (a) they are all vaccinated with Sinovac, which is not very good and (b) the government is simply very heavily invested in zero COVID, and it is going to take them a while to pivot from that as they don't like looking like they were wrong (and I suspect that (b) is the dominant factor, but have nothing to back that up).

I have heard b) from others who know the Chinese government well. To change course would be weak, which is dangerous for the regime. From a very brief look into it, it seems like there's an actual reason for their hesitancy to reopen with the elderly population still having a comparatively low vaccination rate. I still don't understand why a government that can force extreme lockdowns can't incentivize greater vaccine uptake.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ects-rcna55666

It looks like the vaccines might cause heart problems in some people. First I'm hearing about this.

old hat lucky that's really an old hat.

it does that to a number of people.

people with heart problems and young people (athletes) with no previous problems.

that's the myocarditis everyone was talking about. chances are pretty low though.

Pretty sure this is settled science and its a lot to do with poor application of the vaccine allowing air bubbles into the blood.

nope. it has nothing to do with poor administrations. vaccines seem to attack the heart in a few people and it seems only pfizer/ biontech is doing this. read luckys article.

the cause is unknown yet but it's def not administration. air bubbles don't cause inflammation of the heart imo.

yeah that's bs. no way air bubbles cause that:

https://study.com/academy/lesson/wha...-embolism.html

Why do you think Pfizer and Moderna are looking into it if it's settled science?

People dying from covid- it's all good bros people die all the time

Rounding error amount die from vaccine- holyshit bros this is big time dangerous

If young people with healthy hearts are the most adversely affected by the vaccine and those same people have very little chance of being negatively affected by covid, do you think it's responsible behavior to push covid vaccines on them?

yeah good point lucky.


another issue:

covid is/might be causing CFS -

known as long covid or chronic fatigue syndrome. symptoms of both are identical. and it's not psychological as Fauci confirmed.

https://www.healthrising.org/blog/20...ndrome-me-cfs/

here is a guy that worked with Fauci and has some bills to settle. they called Fauci the Darth Vader.

according to a July or Judy that publishes books now, she is blaming myoncarditis on contaminations of vaccines. that makes some sense as the vaccines have to be stored very carefully, which is a real task.

here is this judy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits

celebrated by the derps and discredited by the other side.

https://www.science.org/content/arti...ny-fauci-viral

The first line of the wiki: