So you aren’t able to have a serious discussion about your views and are making up hypothetical frameworks to justify weird conspiracies about trans kids. got it.

You keep going on about "souls". Multiple posts of moronic transphobia getting laundered through concerns of "the soul".

I hate to rain on your parade, but souls do not exist. That's not an actual thing. It's an old wives' tale meant to comfort people who are afraid of death (and enact violence and oppression against marginalized groups).

Organized religion is likely the primary motivator of transphobia and other social ills. Getting rid of that malignant nonsense will go a long way towards creating a less bigoted and more equitable society.

You seem quite dumb, so I suspect you actually, genuinely believe that everyone is stunned into awed silence by your poor man's 3rd grader rhetorical argument against trans people. And that really tickles me. So, thank you!

You know what else doesn’t exist? Men who can become pregnant and carry a child to term. Women with penises also do not exist. People who have changed their biological sex also are nonexistent. As is Bigfoot.

Meisner is still struggling to understand the differences between sex and gender. Somehow, this failed understanding of Trans 101-level stuff hasn't prevented him from spewing forth dozens of transphobic hateposts.

Maybe watching another 100 Ben Shapiro videos will help you out.

Although I guess it's nice to know that Meisner is also an atheist, what with his "you know what else doesn't exist?" implicit admission. Typically, a removal of religious faith in a person leads to them becoming more of a humanist and less of a reactionary bigot. Still got some work to do with this one.

When a guy puts on a dress it magically invalidates entire groups of peoples existence. A guy puts on a bra, poof trans people aren’t real. A guy puts on some concealer poof gays don’t exist. Lipstick? poof no more lesbians. I don’t even want to tell you what groups will be invalidated when a guy puts on a wig.

It’s not science, psychology or established philosophical belief so no one really took him up on discussing his psycho-transcendent realm that he created. I asked him about it and he ran away from the whole concept he had been pushing for days, revealing he didn’t really care that much about transcendent genders but rather was using it as a tool to accuse trans people of being fake and lured into it because they’re dumb and some secret parasitic class is giving them “celebratory hyper acceptance “ . He wasn’t interested in clearing up what he thinks is going on there but this is the kind of recipe most conspiracies come from( new world order, global depopulation) and it all starts with a failure to empathize with trans people.

I think the bigger issue here, regardless of whether you believe the transgender is real, normal or a mental illness, is whether society has a right to withhold medical care or treatment from them. I don't think any of the states have produced anything compelling other than the lies (that Meisner, Lozen and Rickroll perpetuate) claiming every 10 year old is immediately given puberty blockers and top surgery on their first visit.

Other than completely banning treatments, these clowns offer nothing in how to manage this medical issue. How else do these people get the individualized necessary medical care if it is not supervised by themselves, their parents and doctors?

It's certainly not a medical dilemma that needs the imput of a UTI expert who doesn't understand what sterilization means.

Actually, the people who say, "Trans women are women" or the people who think that changing the "M" to an "F"on a driver's license are the one struggling to understand. I understand science just find.

I do not believe in a sky god, that is true.

1. I never said that all 10 year olds get puberty blockers first visit. But it does happen and it is happening more and more. The fact that any child receives such medications is disgusting.
2. I have stated multiple times that these children need psychiatric care just as we did in the past with other social contagions. Multiple personalities, see the psychiatrist. Cutting, psych. You think you can change biology, no problem kid, here, take these pills. I promise you will never regret it.
3. Yep. That's all I am, a UTI expert. I guess it's still better than your promising career at Taco Bell.

This response and all of your other responses to me are why I’m not going to continue to repeat what I’ve previously explained. I’ve posted a lot of ideas in this thread already.

You’ve already made up your mind. Your feigned interest is simply a ploy to figure out how to frame what I’m saying in the least charitable manner. Like I said, people will go to extreme lengths to protect their immediate sources of meaning.

I’m busy but wow is that the opposite of the truth. I had genuine interest in your perspective. I was the only one. if you look at my responses it’s obvious i was trying to have a friendly conversation. I was not doing that.

I’ve been extremely kind in this thread to everyone and people keep transposing things on me.

Meisner your problem is that unless you are an old timer and this is just a new account for you, you're a newbie and an ******* to everyone. That's not a good combo for longevity.

You clearly did what I said in the post I quoted. I said I was leaving the thread so your hand was forced sooner than you planned, but you made sure to fire off all your uncharitable interpretations of my involvement on this topic.

wrong but I could see how you’d think that. I had no desire to make you look bad.none.

I don’t believe you’re doing it consciously. I just know for sure there will be nothing productive in continuing the exchange. At least for now.

Sure Greg,
1. I assume puberty blockers were developed for people to take before they hit puberty. This is any area where you have questioned the efficacy and permanency of side effects of treatment without any proof whatsoever. Whether it is happening more and more and is disgusting sounds like more bullshit you are making up rather than medical science backed up by proof. You did cite the St. Louis case and seemingly claimed the Reed affidavit was accurate in the timing of medical care.

2. Again, you don’t have any expertise to decide this is social contagion. Stick to appendicitis.

3. So you think completing my residency at McDonald’s and moving to a private practice at Taco Bell was a bad idea?

You guys keep insulting me, calling me names, etc. All I've done is maintained a solid position rooted in the truth of science.

1. They were designed to offset precipitous puberty.
2. Maybe I don't, but what about Dr. Miriam Grossman, who has been studying gender for over 40 years. Or Dr. Stephen Levine who's been studying it for over 50 years and is a recognized expert in the field having served on the DSM subcommittee on gender disorders. Or Kenneth Zucker, former head of Gender Identity Service at Toronto Center for Addiction and Mental Health. How about what they have to say on the matter? Surely you'd admit they know more than you and I?
3. I hope you get trusted with the fancy headset at the drive-thru soon.

Right, because mandating an m/f designation on a drivers license or pronoun usage is rooted in science, ****wit.

It actually is. We have two sexes, or, if you prefer, genders. Male, designated on a license by the letter M, and female, designated by F.
Regarding pronouns, the correct pronoun for a man is "he" and for a woman "she." "They" is used for plurals.

“They” is used as a singular pronoun all the time. Christ, you’re stupid.