Just so I’m clear here: you are accusing ganstaman of being a child molester?

Puberty blockers have been used on-label since the 1980s to treat precocious puberty in children, and were approved for use in treating precocious puberty in children by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1993.

Puberty blocker - Wikipedia

Nothing like a fact doctor putting out fake facts without citation and calling others liars. Looooooooooooool, fakers.

Nice ninja edit, Dr faker.

i genuinely think that many people like yourself would be much more aligned with my perspective on this matter if you had more boots on the ground and first hand knowledge of it

most people live in bubbles

those in the trans bubble tend to be the ones autistically screaming that declaring men can't have babies is transphobic and bigoted and we need to stop using words like pregnant women because it's not inclusive and if you don't you're a hateful person

then you get the people who are bubble adjacent, have first hand experience of the nonsense and are pushing back on it - they don't have any ill will towards people but also will not start including their pronouns on their email signature nor start saying "pregnant people"

then you have the rest, which are the majority and have no direct interactions with trans and thus perspectives are formed strictly by media - they just go along with wherever they tend to align politically and repeat the echo chamber


bobo - i'm saying this as politely as a possibly can say it, but it astounds me you would have such strong positions on this when you didn't even know that surprise dicks in dating is a genuine thing and strongly defended by many

i also think that this is just the tip of the iceberg of stuff that you assume are done according to reason and decency - when it is not done that way at all



i genuinely think failure to disclose your gender at birth to a sexual/dating partner should be considered sexual assault - this is a pipe dream though as it's only a criminal offense to fail to disclose that you are HIV positive to sexual partners in just 10 of 50 states so it's obviously never happening, but that's how i genuinely feel about it, it's sexual assault, hiding the fact that you have a penis or even previously had one is a form of sexual assault

i do not care on iota whether an adult wants to cosplay as another gender, but once they start spreading their delusions on dating partners or pushing hormone therapy on children that's where lines are crossed and you're now pushing things on people who either did not consent or children who are too young to consent

No, I’m accusing him of supporting an ideology that leaves in its wake a large amount of permanently damaged children.

Precocious puberty =/= transgender care.

Try again. Hey, how many paper crowns are you allowed to bring home from work?

I work primarily with children and adolescents. I don't think there's anything a kid (or any patient, really) tells me that I instantly believe. So what is with this pretending that kids express they are trans for the first time and then get put on meds within 5 minutes? That doesn't match my experience, and I can't imagine it's common if it occurs at all.

You said we were grooming kids. Grooming them for what?

Do you work in a transgender specific clinic? The ones I am familiar with do it exactly as I described. They are told not to question the child’s delusion at all.

I worked adjacent to one. And are you sure that's what they said? They said don't question the child's delusion? Because somehow, I don't think you had a great understanding of what was really going on in there.

bobo to put things in perspective - there are now people in the thread who believe you are also transphobic because you think whether or not a woman has a penis matters enough to be a factor in your willingness to be a sexual partner with her



i just find it insane that if my dentist were to attempt to blow me in his office or even intentionally brush his junk up against me then i could press sexual assault charges against him and he could lose his practice

if my girlfriend blindfolded me and then swapped in another woman that too would a chargeable offense of sexual assault

but if it's a transwoman doing essentially the same thing then i'm a bigoted transphobe because the real problem is me and my prejudice against dicks and should learn to love all women regardless of whether or not they have a dick

that's how sick and twisted this entire thing is

I have access to and read the notes in the EMR

You aren't familiar with any transgender clinics that operate as you say. UH and Rainbows are the biggest around you and neither operate in such a fashion. Such a liar.

Metro pride clinic, and yes, all of them operate that way.
I highly doubt you would even know.

Right, just like the Reed affidavit outlined how the St. Louis clinic operated.

This is how Fakey claims it works.

This is how Metro Hospital says it works:

Gender Care
Kids Pride Gender Care
Kids Pride Gender Care Journey
Our Kids Pride Gender Care team has a multi-disciplinary approach that includes psychology, social workers, endocrinologists, and primary care physicians. Our goal is a supportive, pressure free environment so your child can explore their gender safely.

When you call for the first appointment you be asked questions and offered some community resources, also available here (LINK). One important question is about court ordered custody and medical power of attorney if the parents are divorced. You may be asked to provide a copy of the court paperwork.

Behavioral Health
Gender care starts with several behavioral health appointments where parents and the child discuss:

Their developmental medical history.
Thoughts and feelings about their gender identity.
Their gender goals and interest in transitioning.
The environment is safe and non-pressured, to help exploration and expression.

The initial intake includes three appointments.

First, the therapist meets with the parents to cover the history of the child and family, as well as to answer your questions and concerns about gender and possible transition.
In the second session, the child meets with the therapist to talk about their feelings and experiences around gender and their sense of self.
The third session generally includes the parents and child, to review what has been said and to discuss the next steps.
Endocrinology
Endocrinologists specialize in all the hormones the body produces, including the hormones related to sex and gender.

The first endocrinology appointment includes a full review of both the child’s medical history and the family history, followed by a full physical exam and blood draw for lab work. The endocrinologist will explain the process and answer questions for you and your child.

The next appointment includes a review of the medical history and the lab results, along with discussion about treatment plans and goals.

Our care follows the latest guidelines from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH).

Treatment plans are very individual. Some patients are monitored for a time, with appointments every 3 to 6 months. In some cases, a patient who has started puberty may be prescribed drugs to stop the process to allow more time for exploration. Older teens may become ready to start hormone treatment.

Who do you believe is being truthful about the process?

Because everyone knows all hospitals and clinics, in every state, operate the exact same way. They all do.

really weird to spend all that time typing it out instead which is menaingless because it's your word against his instead of providing the link and showing concrete evidence instead of hearsay

Fact is, you don’t know sh*t

He ignores what I posted. They say one thing but do something else.

Tell me, what’s the legal status in the state of Missouri regarding giving children hormones and puberty blockers.

It's cute that you think I typed that out instead of cutting and pasting it from the Metro website after posting your manifesto about the dating apps failure to protect you from a transgender date.

It's not surprising that Fakey claims it does not actually follow the protocols it holds out to the public, without any proof whatsoever.

Fact is, I am pretty good at pointing out your bull sh*t. You are quite the liar.

You seem to like asking questions when you can't answer them and get caught lying

then why not just share the link? what are you afraid of?