Might have to consult some Durkheim on that one

Didace you appear an acute thinker usually, even if you disagree with my tone (and my claims) often enough, why is it so hard for you to admit that the claim "convincing people they are victims of an occurring genocide (that isn't happening at all in any way or form) can cause severe mental distress and everything that is linked to severe mental distress" is obviously true?

Because you know it is.

uke getting on his high horse there is a worse look than had he just ignored you.

All sorts of declarations were made ITT without any corroborating evidence to back it up. This is normal for forum warrior culture, obviously, but it was coupled with some really over-the-top insinuations that anyone who didn't agree with the false narrative was the absolute worst kind of shitbag.

Trans people aren't special. I was bullied in grade school for being freakishly tall and not having as much leg hair as all the cool kids that played in private soccer leagues. Their ringleader was the actual freak of nature and looked like Teen Wolf, but he was cool and I was not. That's just how it works sometimes.

My daughter is also in the 99th percentile for height and went through the same bullying for it.

I'm saying you have no ****ing clue what happened here and your speculation is made up out of whole cloth.

I hope that helps.

If a trans identified individual kills themselves I think it's more reasonable to suggest that issues related to identity came into play than other causes like missing homework.

Yeah for sure it's all speculation but some guesses are more reasonable than others.

No they suffer from a mental health issue as do all individuals that take their life

Not true. People kill themselves for a variety of reasons-- many of them culturally mediated like shame.

No, mental illness isn't the only reason for suicide, although for teens and young adults it's by far the single most probable co-factor at least in the data I have seen

Why aren't you saying the same to the people who immediately jumped at the idea bullying was the cause though, I wonder

The issues that may have caused the uncertainty and anxiety that resulted in identity issues (such as both parents absenting themselves at a very early stage, leaving everything to the grandmother) are worth considering, but it is a bad idea to attribute any suicide to a single particular cause, absent judicial proof, especially where the young are concerned because of their known liability to suggestion and social contagion.

It's of interest that, before the legal and medical finding of suicide, media sources pre-emptively attempted to claim Benedict's death as a murder, even inventing 'serious head injuries' which were not in evidence, and also claiming that Oklahoma's law against school students using the opposite sex's bathrooms had anything to do with it, which for obvious reasons it didn't.

So first Nex was beaten to death, then when it's ruled a suicide it's due to bullying? Seems to me you're engaging in narrative rather than attempting true insights.

I don't feel the need to respond to every post or opine on all topics. You should try it.

There is a federal investigation into the incident that is ongoing.

I didn't speculate about the cause of their death. Only you did that. With wild fantasies about it being the secret fault of the left. Just because you did something horrendous in the face of a tragic death doesn't mean you get to pretend some whataboutism game that I did it too.

Why are you responding to me? I made no claim ITT about the cause of their death, before or after the autopsy.

Or that the choice to adopt a trans identity and the self-harm issues are symptoms of another underlying issue....

It’s impossible to “adopt a trans identity” you either are trans or not.

Do you have a take on people who detransition? Were they never actually trans even when they identified as such?

97-99% of trans individuals who transition don’t detransition. The other 3% mostly detransition at “gun point” - either for financial reasons or massive abuse from their own family.

So your position is that the people who detransition are still actually trans?

almost all the time, yes.

first off, how noble of you. seriously, you're an amazing person.

second, does the fact that he/she was non-binary somehow make it a worse tragedy?

Why

Lol this 3% is about people who still keep relationships with fender clinics.

It's a super low-ball estimate, resistors are actually exceptionally more common than that.

But you guys have an incredibly strong reason to lie about this I understand.

Because every non trans who gets sterilized or mutilated is something society could reasonably use to shut down all the "trans youth care" operations

This is not true just on general principles. Regardless of your opinion of the transgender issue, it is possible to be something and choose not to identify yourself as that thing in society. And equally, you can not be something and choose to identify as that thing socially.