Conservatives care so much about children's safety they want to bring back child labor.

Do you have any idea how high unemployment is in children?

These lazy twelve year olds need to earn their way and stick their little hands in the machinery!

No, I think these guys really care about children and their safety. And women's sports, too.

Do you have ANY IDEA how high unemployment numbers are among 10 year olds? It's absolutely sickening, this Country needs to get right with God

So, now you are moving the goalpost to Big Pharma and you want me to Google drug costs.

I will take your omission as an admission that you were lying. At least you recd back up from your Holocaust not admitter teammate.

I've never not "admitted" the Holocaist-- which you know. Again-- the people who want to accuse others of lying are the biggest liars here.

NO I am saying both Big Pharma and the Medical Industry have a lot to gain

And lets be clear I have never posted anything or supported anything denying the holocaust. So stop making up BS

When the first three sentences refer to detransitioners, flaws in the procedures and UC countries putting a halt to procedures I don't see how anyone can interprete "That the US medical system looks at this as just another goldmine" as including big pharm and drug costs. I would expect you to prove that the medical community interest in providing medical procedures has been shown to be purely financial or something along those lines.

And don't worry, your teammate also claims he never denied the the Holocaust.

It's easy to head to the strawman contentions (and godwin's law!) and I think twitter facilitated that from the right as well by not giving them an equal voice.




On twitter the prevailing truth was that a trans woman is a woman, and therefore is afforded all of the things a woman is afforded (and then of course the gaslighting with language and acting like there is no way to even use language to say this.). This is what leads to the support of lia thomas. And the controlling of the narrative kept it binary.

Should trans women participate in female sports and not male sports and why (and the same for trans men!?)?

And if I have to call someone by their preferred pronouns, in order to be polite at the least, do i have to do this if they mean to change them every day? do I have to call people frog self?

In a separate post I want to then mention as we sort out those questions the harder one I think is if people on mass were commiting suicide because no one would call them frog selfs....should our constitutional frameworks be adjusted if it eradicated their suicidal behaviors?

That's so ******ed. We know scientifically humans are not frogs. From my understanding, we do not know scientifically/neurologically what leads to trans in people.

You should **** on these people as hard as you can, obv.

obviously the accusation or intended consideration here is that these moral high ground sentiments and thoughts might not hold up when considered outside of their vacuums. they are presented in.

I just want to see if the people that might call me a bigot would agree they mean to stand for this as being reasonable?

Hmmm, who else used to just spam pictures as if that made a reasoned argument?

Its not unknown here who I am (I'm not whoever ur alluding to). I don't mean to spam a picture. I mean to discuss the content.

Pretty epic actually if it were that guy but I doubt it. You're still dealing with probably 80+% of men in the US holding the views of Jb on trans folk in sports.

Nowhere near enough Carlin meme and gaslighting accusations. Cuepes may have shared his folder of bad trans people to spam with jbouton though

Male pattern baldness goes a long way in a trans sports debate.

I said I don't understand how acknowledging peoples views of themselves leads us to reason that their gender change should apply to the intentions behind the rules of sports.

The same for change rooms. We didn't mean to separate change room or sports based on gender distinctions. For sports its obviously based on the general physiology. Thats why it makes zero sense to have lia thomas competing in the womans ncaa.

Do we just need to call it female swimming? Does that change things for the people calling me a bigot?

For change rooms obviously we are separating by body type based on things like comfort, rape, etc. I wouldn't understand why if we make general rules to capture the general public, how we would argue to flip those rules and tailor to the comfort of the minority in this regard?

Does know one have a counter argument?

I really do hope ya'll have the moral high ground...I'd hate to realize I live in a world where thats just your subjective view that doesn't involve proper critical thinking...if THAT style of group think were prevalent I think we would be in trouble.

You should look up some of the past threads on this topic, where the athlete discussion has been had ad nauseum. I think you'll find that most of us agree there is a line where there needs to be rules around the admissibility of transgender athletes, and there are in many sports. The main point of disagreement was simply when that should be - right from day one, some time in K-12, college, professional leagues/Olympics...

One of those threads might be a better place for your questions, once you see what's already been covered.

Oh boy, another dingbat spamming the thread with his weirdly curated image library of trans athletes.

another thing that twitter's state control (and marxist agenda'd) bias did was give people the impression that we are to accept that a trans-woman is a woman and a trans man a man...

obviously english, and being typed, is limited here. So I'll have to use sentiments to convey what i mean to say...

its easiest if we can use male/female as biological sex.

So we can say that a trans woman is not biologically female (nor a trans man a male).

That distinction is something I should think anyone reasonable here would agree with an uphold.

It was driving people nuts on twitter because it was getting moderated otherwise.

This of course pertains to change rooms for example. Why would a male that identifies as a woman, have any reason or need to changed in front off females?

How did the language bend the science in this regard?

Ah yes, Twitter’s well-known pro-trans bias.