I don't presently have an opinion on contraceptives.


Absolutely. And many other factors would need to be considered as well.

I am unaware of any Christian denomination that believes that producing children is the only role of a woman.

In fact, nuns take a vow of celibacy, just like priests. (I'm not Catholic, but using them as an example.)



Who is the "they" who told you that?

It’s because you consider a cell that has no brain, no sex, cant breath , etc etc ... a human shrug .....

And I don’t think anyone here would accept a woman aborted like at 7-8 months btw .....

It’s funny with all the power god has , Jesus couldn’t be clear about a pretty simple context like abortion .

For the almighty creator of the universe, it’s kinda of a weak proposition you tell us .

Maybe he didn’t say it because he was simply not against abortion .....
like said earlier , you always cites verses to speak the truth but now you tell us we need to interpret and derives the thought of god huh ....

At that point you can actually interpret any idea you would like from the bible that isn’t written in it ...
And the proof is, there is a lot of different factions about Christianity.
So someone must be wrong right ?
How can you all be right with different ideas with the same god ?

That ain’t very trustworthy to think men can read gods mind .
Like Nostradamus that could read the futur with interpretation ?

The Bible says in Exodus if a woman is injured and loses her fetus then her husband is entitled to financial compensation, such as a loss of property, but if the full grown adult woman dies the penalty is a life for a life.

Therefore, it is more heinous to kill a full grown adult. This is from your own religious text. Are you saying you know better than your own God?

Because the Bible says if a person kills a fetus they should “fined”. #themoreyouknow

It’d be very weird to kill full grown adults over owed fines, yah?

Hey guys I found some CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES today



Spoiler, literally the only conservative principle is trolling

I threw up in my mouth a bit. Good job, conservatives, you legit hurt my feelings with this. So much winning.

Quite frankly, I don't give a **** what you have to say about Jesus. You're an unprincipled charlatan w.r.t. Christianity. That you think the death penalty is an acceptable punishment is all anyone needs to know that you don't take Jesus seriously or literally.

Why do you think morality is based on the word it is? Accident?

When the "drinking blood for eternal life" crew, you know, the vampire type believers, are pinned down on any subject they run for the hills, and away from rationality. They have to. They are all in on pure occult magic. Don't debate with it. Until they can extricate themselves, reality is adjourned in their thinking. But the OP question is a great one, imo.

For the same reason everyone should be vegan they should be against abortion.

This isn’t a God or religion argument... science supports what I’m saying...

Things with a central nervous system feel pain. This should be the indicator whether you should be allowed to kill something.

For example plants don’t have a central nervous system and neither does semen...

If it feels pain you can’t kill it.

In my case the nuns.

But that's the basic moral consequence of Christianity asaik.

The unborn human beings you think are so important are born into original sin and will be doomed to an eternity of hell. Unless they get saved (various ways all claiming to be the only way) and stay in God's grace (some think once you're in you're in for good, other's disagree).

If you believe any basic Christian doctrine you think God forces us to play a very high stakes game and doesn't even give us a clear set of rules to follow.

I suspect God is better than the box humans keep putting him in.

Every living thing feels pain. Since pain is a part of life, avoiding it 100% probably isn't a scientific principal. In fact, I suspect science would factor feeling pain into an evolutionary advantage.

Incorrect.

Certain things have pain receptors and central nervous system which are required to feel pain. Science backs this up 100%.

So there’s a scientific reason to be vegan and pro life.

When you add a persons ability to reason with the fact we can differentiate things that feel pain it’s a good time to go vegan pro life.

Good time to be on the right side of history when this all plays out.

Prohibiting abortion rights results in *more* net pain.

Well people are free to take responsibility for their actions at any point.. it’s ironic we hold poker players to a higher standard.

In this argument about abortion..

Liberals come off as immoral and conservatives come off as hypocrites....

It’s time to go vegan pro life. There’s no more excuses and mental gymnastics.

Watch how triggered people get when I question their world view and call everyone out...

Just bc I’m saying don’t kill sentient beings of any type... watch the rage!

Why would you take lagtight's very common among American Christians support for the death penalty as a sign that he is faking his Christianity?



And there is no consensus among Christian denominations that the death penalty is wrong, with eg the second-largest US denomination, the Southern Baptists, in favor of capital punishment.

As for whether it shows that someone doesn't take Jesus seriously, Jesus is not clearly portrayed as opposing the death penalty in the Bible. And the Bible as a whole is clearly fine with it in at least some circumstances.

It is a hallmark of modern legal systems that the law circumscribes judicial discretion in sentencing. Assuming you agree with this, what are the sentencing guidelines you would favor in your preferred American legal system for a woman who has an abortion? Say a 30-year professional unmarried professional woman is convicted of having an abortion. What do you believe the sentencing range should be? Evidently you believe it should include capital punishment, so what considerations should go into that sentence rather than lesser ones?

I think the Southern Baptists completely missed the boat on huge swaths of the teachings of Jesus, yes. That whole denomination is only a thing because of support for slavery. And no, I'm not surprised that large chunks of Christians don't take it all that seriously, but they also aren't in here trying to act like some sort of theological scholar.

FFS, don’t give him any ideas, he could definitely be down with that.

Way to intentionally miss the point.

Typical religious fanatic.