What's your current living situation ?
House, apt, dorm ?

Biden wanted to hang people for Jay Walking at one time.

A nice Catholic boy.

The Southern Baptists are not the only ones - Mormons, Lutherans, Assembly of God, the National Association of Evangelicals, also either support or are neutral towards the death penalty as well. Anyway, my main point is that supporting the death penalty is not a sign that someone who claims to be a Christian is a charlatan. Christianity as it actually exists is not incompatible with supporting the death penalty (and Christians don't just ignore the Old Testament, which is clearly in favor of the death penalty), even if you think this is something Jesus would have opposed.

I do think scorn is usually the correct response to some heathen trying to tell a religious person what their religion really teaches. Religions like Christianity that try to generate a complete and coherent worldview will often have hard questions where their tradition give support to multiple contradictory viewpoints. Outsiders who don't accept the authority of this tradition also don't have a strong impulse to integrate these opposing ideas into a coherent whole, and so find it easy to pick the side of tradition more congruent to their own views as the essential part of the tradition and just ignore the other parts and so claim the actual adherents attempting to integrate them are not being true to their religious tradition.

I assume this claim is false, so if you have some point you're driving at here beyond Vote for Trump Or At Least for God's Sake Don't Vote Biden, please explain yourself more clearly.

trip I was reading about jaywalking history yesterday--some interesting twists n turns in there The only quote I could find on this is about the 90s crime bill but he said--we do everything but hang people for jaywalking.

The west coast has always been more on the jaywalking thing ime anyway(but also very pro-pedestrian--most drivers are pretty tuned in and yield to people on foot) East coast is where people being on foot can get pretty sketchy(feel like there's a target on you)--though I have noticed that changing in recent years.

Jaywalking is ubiquitous in major Northeastern cities, and no less common in my experience than on the West Coast.

I do notice, however, that Christians aren’t stoning their rebellious children to death anymore even though the Bible permits it. Such an odd text, the Bible...

Stop giving them ideas, JFC.

You should vote for whomever you like.

And if you have no idea of their record, even better.

Yeah, he was speaking rhetorically and so was I.

I knew it would trigger the neo libs. But as far as this discussion goes, Biden was always for harsh penalties including execution.

Just like he's always been for cutting the social safety net.

He's what you call an lol-Christian.

Don't worry. Biden will fix that.

Except I don’t participate in any religion.. God and organized man made religion are two different things..

It’s telling how liberals think like this

You make your diet a religion. And you act like any other fanatic who thinks they know how everyone else should behave.

Whatever. I don't care. I'm just pointing it out to you.

I am not an outsider. Maybe to evangelical denominations, but not to Christianity.

I haven't checked every Lutheran denomination, but the ELCA is formally opposed. The Episcopalian church also.

The reality of the environment at the time was that the majority of people wanted 'tough on crime' laws. Suggesting radically different ideas/alternative approaches at the time was basically just a way to get shown the door.

Regardless of what we may think about those options--when you simply don't have the numbers you're most likely not getting something close to what you might want in politics. That's kinda just reality.

Sorry, I thought you weren't a Christian, my apologies for being incorrect the false presumption.

The LCMS and WELS (the next two biggest denominations) both support the death penalty. Obviously I'm not arguing that this is a required viewpoint for Christians, just that this is an standard part of Christian teaching for many US Christians. Unless you think those denominations are no longer Christian, the acceptance by people in those denominations of the death penalty should be taken more as evidence of their Christianity than the opposite.

Oh ya but ime there's still been a difference from the perspective of drivers and how they respond to pedestrians. On the east coast you'll almost never see cars coming to a halt from both directions--if you just look like you might be about to enter the street Though I have noticed it change some in last few years.

You have spent the last year saying that you think people shouldn't vote for some candidates, even if they like them. Now this is your view?

Found some CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES today on the importance of being reasonable

Don’t forget the Quakers!

I should add that I think it is irresponsible for conservatives to treat this issue lightly in their conversation. There is a decent chance that Roe v Wade is overturned in the near future, potentially returning the issue of abortion rights to the states. If you think a woman should be killed for having an abortion, you should be clear about it so women clearly know the potential danger they might be in from criminal prosecution in those states. Around 24% of American women will have had an abortion by the age of 45. That's over 40 million people. They deserve to know if their fellow citizens believe they should be killed and are trying to pass laws to make this killing happen.

Don’t worry, we know.

Really ?

It seems that you fake liberals have been trying to shame me into that all this time. And now gas lighting me like I'm a young girl in a 1950's movie.

Does this stuff work on your friends irl ? Seems creepy.

But I don't blame you. It's not like you have a policy to sell me.

Biden's voting record as a senator illustrates how drastically his politics on abortion have changed.

In 1973, Biden, a Catholic, said the Supreme Court went "too far" in its Roe v. Wade decision. He now "firmly believes that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land and should not be overturned,” his press secretary says, per NBC.
A year after Roe v. Wade's 1973 decision, Biden said a woman shouldn’t have the “sole right to say what should happen to her body.”
He voted against a 1977 compromise that allowed Medicaid-funded abortions, with exceptions for victims of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
After the rape and incest exemptions passed, Biden voted in 1981 to remove them, per NBC.
He also voted multiple times, including in 1983, to prevent federal employees from obtaining abortion services through their health insurance.

https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-abor...f10a4f94b.html

Wondering if "people" want the option to execute women that have abortions or just the doctors that preform the procedure.......or both.