Such a good negotiator....the other party walked out on her. LOL.

There were multiple parties here, and they weren't exactly on the same page with each other. Sounds like Nancy did a pretty good job with the White House and Mitch was never going to make any kind of deal no matter what. Given that, the fact that she got out of all this with a huge political victory (with Trump mashing his phone begging her on Twitter to do something!) seems to mean she did about as good as anyone possibly could have, which is why your endless whining ITT demanding people blame Dems continues on.

Typical that with less and less of a factual basis to rest your arguments on, it edges closer and closer to pure trolling.

Why don't you negotiate with those that won't negotiate with you is a take.

It's the fault of the people willing to negotiate that the people who refuse to negotiate refuse to negotiate with them, so really, the people willing to negotiate are the ones who refuse to negotiate.

Mitch nuked it because it undermined his authority. Mitch saw the writing on the wall that he was facing a large number of defections by vulnerable R's. Problem Solvers were already at the $2T number. A lot of R's, like Collins, really really really want this done. Mitch is in Kentucky, so he doesn't give a **** about anything but the airline bailout.

Trump was just easily manipulated by Mitch as usual, as one would a small child. All he had to do was play to Trump's ego.

And yes she is a good negotiator, considering she walked away from $1T on the table and got $1.6T whenever she wants in return, and will now get a lot more whenever the R's come crawling back again, or after the election (when the Dem's will get all the credit). Say whatever you want about Pelosi, but even R's will acknowledge she is very good at her job.

Have you ever negotiated anything successfully in your life?

The democrats make a lot of mistakes. How they have handled this negotiation is not one of them. They have handled it just right.

The pressure is mounting on republicans, the moron president is flip flopping all over the place. It is pretty clear right now the only people serious about helping are the dems. Given how awful they usually are on messaging, that is substantial.

Last I checked, there was zero dollars going anywhere. Only a partisan Democrat would call getting nothing, winning a negotiation.

Not enough people talking about Trump's withdrawl from stimulus for what it is: a threat to hold stimulus hostage.

Both parties are on board with the $1200, right?

Why not pass the $1200 pronto, then continue negotiating the other stuff?

It's a mistake to talk about Trump calculus in terms of what's in the proposals.

What Trump cares about is taking credit for sending bigly checks with his signature.

His calculus is at this point he can't take credit for passing the stimulus bill so he switches over to: re-elect me and I'll get it through.

Bc the dems have other responsibilites to answer to and are using it as a cudgel.

The Republicans aren't interested in helping other (densely populated) portions of the country so here we are.

Who's at fault? Depends if you care about everyone or just you.

Trump is the useful idiot who hasn't reached the age of accountability, this is all Mitch vs Nancy.

In my opinion, this Stimulus debacle is further evidence that NEITHER party cares AT ALL about anything other than power.

(Not that more evidence was required.)

Except this is how Republicans act all the time (see, e.g., the weekly meaningless votes on repealing ACA led by Mitch Mc****face), and there’s an election in 25 days that Democrats are going to win and then govern b/c they actually care about making government work and Republicans specifically want it to fail.

But keep doing your 2004 South Park both-sidesing while Republicans’ gleeful scientific ignorance has led them to lose seniors by 25 points in ****ing Iowa.

We will keep taking your donkey stacks until your ATM says no mas.

Because Democrats want to get stuff for cities, and are holding out for that reason. Some here think it's a negotiating strategy by Pelosi, but really it's political. There is zero chance Republicans will give money to cities. Pelosi is playing politics to get that money for cities. The problem is, she is never getting the money for the cities until after the election, and only if the Democrats take the senate and white house.

There's the rub...they could do the money for the cities after the election, and the $1200 now. Why won't they? They don't want to give Trump a political victory. Democrats believe taking this route helps them in November.

Yeah, it really helps giving money to cities. That's not in my interest. My city bought a stadium, and with some of the previous fed money for covid, they finished a remodeling of a government building thats been on hold for 6 years.

Cities are people, my friend.

Government offices tend to be dumps.

LOL at getting mad they remodel one every 50 years.

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It doesn't matter. No deal that gives a huge amount of money to city governments will not pass the senate, and Pelosi knows this. She won't let go of that, and we won't get a deal.

It can definitely pass the Senate. It's Mitch that's now blocking a vote. As long as he's miles ahead of McGrath, he will continue to not give a ****.

Trump only cares about getting his name on checks before election day. If Pelosi gives him a skinny bill, she gives up all of her leverage in exchange for nothing. Why would she do that? Trump misplayed his hand badly.

That city money is a like a rider that's put on a bill to ensure it does not pass. That city money is the ONLY thing that is stopping a deal.